Table of Contents:
- The Basic Summary of This Whole Article
- Are You Using Homeopathic or Hormone-Free hCG Drops?
- Reasons to Pay Attention to Dose
- What Should My Hunger Level Be on hCG?
- Reasons for hunger the first few days on the hCG diet
- Carb withdrawal – Loading for hCG affects hunger
- Benefits of Loading Clean/Low Carb on Hunger for the hCG Diet
- The Right Dose of hCG– Finding the No-Hunger Sweet Spot
- Homeopathic Drop Dosing
- Tiny Dose Adjustments Have Big Effects
- When to Make a Larger Dose Adjustment Quickly
- hCG Dosing for Men
- The Dosing Debate
- How to Go About Adjusting Your Dose of hCG
- When Hunger is Not a Dose Issue
- Don’t Just Let Yourself Be Hungry on hCG……Whatever You Do
- What to Do in the Meantime While Waiting for Dose Change to Take Effect
- How Long Before You Should Notice the Effects Of Your Dose Change
- MINOR Adjustments Are Often All That is Needed
- Where to Find Your Dose on the Syringe
- Real hCGer Dosage Stories on Finding Their Best hCG Dose
Just one of many similar emails I get:
“I’m only on day 4 of P2 and I am having a difficult time thinking I am going to make it. I am insatiably hungry ALL the time. In the morning, before I have lunch, right after eating lunch, mid afternoon, before dinner, right after dinner. Besides the food being less than appealing, I am sticking to the 500 calories. I am a mom of three small boys and I won’t make it to the end of this if I continue feeling this horrible. I am completely miserable.“
I promise you it doesn’t have to feel this way.
You: “WHY do I feel hungry on hCG?? Why I am starving??”
Me: You are NOT crazy, and IT’S FIXABLE. Fixable.
Right Dose = No Hunger
Wrong Dose = Hunger
This is how it should be and can be:
Even though most are only eating only 500 calories during Phase 2 of hCG, with the right dose of hCG, there is no hunger. Really really. As a person whose done 5 rounds total of this protocol with injections myself to get to my current weight (which I’ve maintained for 6 years now as of November 2018 with no further hCG use), I have seen this for myself and it’s pretty miraculous. So if that’s not how you are feeling, I’m here to help you GET to that lovely place of not feeling like you’re starving.
While there ARE other reasons that hunger might become an issue unrelated to dose, which I discuss briefly later on this article, by and large, this is THE NUMBER ONE reason people struggle on this diet because they find themselves constantly hungry and they don’t realize their dose is off. Tiny tweaks to dose really do change the hunger you experience.
You will also hear from a growing number of real hCGers who have sent in their “dosage stories” – that is people who were starving (not okay), then adjusted their dose, and felt way better (way okay-awesome).
If you’ve gotten your hCG from a weight loss clinic, they tend to dose too high for many which causes the hunger. You may not know that you can now get real hCG injections, drops and pellets online through the following sources- it’s legit, and you get your prescription along with the hCG when you order through them:
Disclaimer! Please read! I am not a medical professional in any way, shape or form, and this is not to be misconstrued as medical advice. I am simply sharing what has worked for me and others. It is your responsibility to discuss these matters with your physician.
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Article Summary – the Short of hCG & Hunger:
1. Reasons to Pay Attention To Dose of hCG:
- If you are hungry on the diet, it will be totally intolerable and you will give up.
- Having no hunger on this protocol is a good indicator that your body really is using your stored fat for fuel. It is possible that being on too high or too low a dose of the hormone that causes you hunger will cause your body to hold on to fat instead. This could cause you to not lose weight at all, or to lose muscle.
2. How You Should Feel When on a Good Dose of hCG For You
- Aside from the first few days of the diet, for the majority of the time you are on the VLCD of the protocol, you should not be hungry most of the day.
- So in general how you should feel on the right dose of hCG: Most of the day not hungry, hungry at meal times, even more hungry if you wait too long to eat one of your meals, but then once you eat your meal you should be satisfied and no longer hungry for several hours afterwards. For those with blood sugar issues you may find that you need to eat a little something in the mornings. Many though will not need to eat anything until lunchtime.
3. How to Find your Dose:
- The majority of people on hCG will find a dose somewhere between 125iu-175iu for hCG injections to be their sweet spot. On a rare occasion, a woman may need as high as 200iu. Typically 125iu is the lowest dose a person would ever take on the diet, however I have also read on a rare occasion that menopausal women may need a dose as low as 75iu in order to not feel hungry- please keep in mind this is not normally the case though. By and large, the majority of females do best with the least hunger on a dose between 125-175iu. Typically the leaner you are, the lower the dose you need. If you are have only 15-20 lbs or so to lose, you will most likely feel best on 125iu. If you are more like 50+ lbs overweight, it’s very possible a higher dosing of 175iu and above may be best for you until you lose more weight.
- One thing I want to iterate here is that tiny differences in dose can make a HUGE difference in your feeling of hunger. The time when making tiny dose adjustments of 10-15ius at a time is if you are put on a much higher dose than typically works for most to begin with, like 200 iu or 250 iu. In those cases, if you are on such a dose and totally starving, I would immediately jump all the way down to 150 iu or 125iu and then go from there, raising in small increments as necessary once I have that lower starting point.
- Men in general seem to do best with slightly higher doses than women on average. A number of men seem to feel the least hunger on 200iu.
- One way to figure this out is to gauge when you are feeling hungry. If you are feeling hungry especially towards the end of the day, that may be an indication that your dose of the hormone is too low and you need to increase it. If you are feeling very hungry earlier in the day, that may be an indication your dose is too high and you need to lower it.
- Hunger is not a dose issue when you are on the leaner side or when you’re not sleeping enough.
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Are You Using Homeopathic or Hormone-Free hCG Drops?
If you are not using real hCG injections or prescription drops or pellets and are hungry – changing your dosage will likely not help.
hCG is a real hormone, not a placebo – you need to use the real thing to get the real effect of it. So if you bought your hCG from a local store like walgreens or walmart or GNC, or you purchased drops online that were already mixed, this is not real hCG, and this is why you are starving and feel so weak and lethargic.
In this case I highly recommend checking out my resources for real prescription hCG injections, pellets, or drops – you do not need a prior prescription for this, you get it through these companies when you order.
I know it’s both popular to think all hCG is the same and tempting to buy something for 30 bucks off the shelf, but I promise, now is not the time to screw with your metabolism.
As someone who has been maintaining my own hCG weight loss from the real hCG injections for 6 years, and seen many others not maintain, using the real hormone is one vital key for most!
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Reasons To Pay Attention to Dose
- First of all, if you are hungry on the diet, it will be totally intolerable and you will give up. It’s totally miserable to be hungry all the time and not sustainable. Not to mention you will probably run your family members out of the house because you’ll be so grumpy.
- Secondly, and more importantly, having no hunger on this protocol is a good indicator that your body really is using your stored fat for fuel. Experiencing excessive hunger then would indicate the opposite. It is possible that being on too high or too low a dose of the hormone that causes you hunger will cause your body to hold on to fat instead. This could cause you to not lose weight at all, or to lose muscle. I don’t think I have to say this not what you want while eating only 500 calories each day!
I have seen far too many people not address hunger issues soon enough- if you are abnormally hungry after the first 3 days of the 500 calorie diet, please read this article carefully to check into the possible causes right away so you can get the best results for your time on the diet.
What Should My Hunger Level Be on hCG?
Let’s talk about it in a nutshell first, then we’ll expand on the topic in a little more detail.
In a nutshell: Aside from the first few days of the diet (we’ll talk about those in a minute), for the majority of the time you are on the VLCD (very low calorie days) of the protocol, you should not be hungry most of the day. However, at mealtimes, times like noon and 6pm, it’s normal to be hungry to need to eat the designated hCG meals. That’s why we do eat that small amount of 500 calories. You are going to feel the need to eat something, so it is normal to be hungry at those times. So just because you do get hungry a couple times during the day, if it’s time to eat your meal, that’s fine, that doesn’t mean that you are on the wrong dose.
The key here is that when you do get hungry and then eat your small meal of 200-250 calories, when you complete eating it you should then be satisfied and no longer hungry for several hours afterwards.
hCG Doesn’t Give You That “Just Finished A Bowl of Spaghetti” Fullness
However, one big thing to note here is that you’re not going to feel “full”. And that sensation can take a little getting used to and can sometimes be mistaken for hunger. When I first started the diet, I was in the habit of overeating pretty much constantly, so I wasn’t used to, or comfortable, with my stomach not feeling full. Over time, the feeling became more comfortable to me, and today, years post my hCG weight loss journey, my “normal” is not feeling full.
There’s definitely an empty feeling going on that’s not the same feeling as finishing a bowl of spaghetti, but you should be no longer hungry. You may consistently have an “empty” feeling in your stomach that you are not used to, especially if you’re used to eating to the point that you are really “full.” Remember, there is very little actual food in your stomach, so an “empty” feeling is normal. This is different than actual hunger.
Overall How You Should Feel When on a Good Dose of hCG For You
So in general how you should feel on the right dose of hCG: Most of the day not hungry, hungry at meal times, even more hungry if you wait too long to eat one of your meals, but then once you eat your meal you should be satisfied and no longer hungry for several hours afterwards. For those with blood sugar issues you may find that you need to eat a little something in the mornings. Many though will not need to eat anything until lunchtime.
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And remember that real hunger is not the same thing as your stomach growling – that’s something I didn’t use to know! I learned over time that if you’re stomach grumbles but you wait it out for 15-20 minutes, the growling completely goes away. The growling sensations that our bodies give us have to do with a hormone called ghrelin. You can learn more about what true hunger is in Robin Woodall’s excellent book on the hCG protocol here: Weight-Loss Apocalypse: Emotional Eating Rehab Through the hCG Protocol
Hunger during the first few days of the 500 Calorie Diet
The first few days that you are on the low calorie portion of the protocol require it’s own explanation, because during these first few days it is normal to experience a little more obvious hunger than you will experience for the majority of the diet. It can be a little harder those first few days to tell if you are on the right dose of hCG, because even if you are on the right dose, you may feel hungry.
Reasons for hunger the first few days on the hCG diet
When you start the loading phase for the diet, the majority of people load the traditional way- that is to load up on any and all foods- this means the foods will not only be high in fat, but high in sugar and refined carbohydrates as well.
To explain the sensation that this can cause, have you ever done something like eat a large meal full of carbs like tons of pasta late at night and got really full, then the following morning you find yourself waking up very hungry, much hungrier than usual? And it seems strange doesn’t it, because you think to yourself, “I ate a lot more than usual just 6-8 hours ago, yet I’m starving when I wake up!” Whereas when you just eat normal meals, you do not wake up feeling extremely hungry. Why does this happen?
Why you feel hungry soon after a large meal
- The SKINNY on why you feel hungry an hour after eating that 350 calorie bagel
- Why Am I Hungry After a Big Meal?
- Why Are We Hungrier in the Morning When We Eat Late At Night?
I’d like to quote just a small excerpt from Dr. Braverman’s article on his pathmed.com website regarding simple carbs and resulting hunger: “Simple carbs drive down ghrelin initially, but this hormone then rises within a few hours to above normal levels; causing you to feel even hungrier than when you started eating in the first place!”
Ghrelin is a hormone responsible for those growling sounds you hear coming from your stomach at times. So loading with lots of carbs and sugar for the diet could cause a lot more stomach growling at first. So when you load for the diet the normal way, consuming vast amounts of not just fats but sugar and carbs as well, you may be hungrier in those first few days because of that drastic change from having an excess of carbs and then suddenly cutting your body off from those carbs cold turkey. Wisegeek.com also mentions regarding Ghrelin that, “research seems to demonstrate that ghrelin suppresses the utilization of fat in the adipose tissue.”
Carb Withdrawal: The Regular Carb to Low Carb Diet Switcharoo
Additionally, I found a number of forum threads discussing how people feel when they switch over to a low carb diet and many of them mention a period of a few days where they experience carb withdrawal.
Here’s a good article describing this: Getting Through the First Week.
You had all these carbs, now all of a sudden your body isn’t getting any, and your body has to make that adjustment. Your body will be craving those carbs for a few days, and it’s not getting any. Having a higher fat diet makes it easier to get through carb withdrawals, but of course if you’re on the diet you’re not taking in fat. So it is normal the first couple days, especially if you’ve loaded the traditional way to be hungry those first few days.
Try to avoid being in the grocery store on VLCD 1 at around 3pm! I made this mistake my first round of HCG Injections and was almost in a daze while walking my cart through the piles of delicious looking foods and feeling quite hungry. But within a couple days, that passed and I was no longer hungry anymore- I was able to have my two small meals each day and feel totally fine the rest of the day.
The faq page of lowcarb.ca mentions this about carb withdrawals: “Many people, but not all, experience unpleasant symptoms during the initial period of switching to low carb eating, such as intense cravings for sugars and sweets, or maybe headaches, fatigue or irritability. This is not a sign of illness, or a reason to quit. Your body needs to clear itself of the excess carbs in your system left over from your previous high-carb diet. Once your blood sugar and insulin levels have evened out, you will feel better, and cravings will disappear. Most people find this only takes a few days, for a few though, it may last over a week.”
So do give yourself a few days on the diet before messing with your dose too much, because you may experience some hunger anyway those first few days.
Benefits of Loading Clean/Low Carb on Hunger for the hCG Diet
The last 3 rounds of the diet, I have done something a little different, which is to load “clean” or low carb. I load on high fat and high protein foods and I eliminate sugars, grains and carbs completely, including no fruit. The only carbs I have during the loading phase for the protocol are low carb veggies.
I have a very comprehensive post all about loading clean here.
This is not something you have to do by any means, but one of the reasons I choose to do this is because I find I am not as hungry those first few days on the very low calorie part of the protocol. I think this is because my body is not making that huge carb transition as I would have been if I had loaded the regular way.
Additionally, I eat low carb for 7-10 days prior to loading for the protocol as well, so by the time I’m loading and by the time I start the low calorie part of the diet, I’m basically at the point where my body has already cleared itself of excess carbs so it’s a little bit of an easier adjustment for my body. I was still a bit hungry the 2nd day on the diet this past round but nothing at all like the hunger I experienced the first few days when I loaded “dirty” (aka with sugar and carbs). You can see my 1-week pre-hCG diet thing here.
So if you choose to load for the diet with sugars and carbs as part of your diet, give yourself those first few days, unless you’re totally ravenous all day long or something, for your body to adjust to less carbs and the hormone to get into full effect in your system. After the first few days, if you are not finding yourself less hungry on the protocol like you should be, it’s time to start thinking about adjusting your dose of the hormone to find that no hunger sweet spot.
If you choose to load for the Diet “clean” or low carb you may find the first few days of the VLCD to be pretty painless and well and have little or no hunger actually. That has been my experience, and one reason I choose to always load clean now.
The Right Dose of hCG- Finding the No-Hunger Sweet Spot
The majority of people on hCG will find a dose somewhere between 125iu-175iu for hCG injections to be their sweet spot. So the three most used doses I’d say are 125iu, 150iu, and 175iu. I’d suggest 150ius as a good start point. If you don’t have much weight to lose you might try a starting dose of 125iu and go from there.
On a rare occasion, a woman may need as high as 200iu. Typically 125iu is the lowest dose a person would ever take on the diet, however I have also read on a rare occasion that menopausal women may need a dose as low as 75iu in order to not feel hungry- please keep in mind this is not normally the case though. By and large, the majority of females do best with the least hunger on a dose between 125-175iu. Typically the leaner you are, the lower the dose you need. If you are have only 15 lbs or so to lose, you will most likely feel best on 125iu.
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Homeopathic Drop Dosing:
Please see this hCGer’s guide to homeopathic hCG dosing for help on that.
Tiny Dose Adjustments Have Big Effects
One thing I want to iterate here is that tiny differences in dose can make a HUGE difference in your feeling of hunger. I need to say this because when you are actually drawing up your hCG dose in the syringe and you think about changing a dose from say, 125iu to 150iu, or even 125iu to 135iu, the difference in volume is practically imperceptible!
It seems like such a tiny difference that it’s hard to believe that such a small change could really alter much in your body. However, I have found this really is the case, and it’s important to be aware of because making too large a change in dose could easily cause you to bypass your no hunger sweet spot entirely causing you to still feel hungry because you are now on too high a dose (or vice versa).
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When to Make a Larger Dose Adjustment Quickly
The time when making tiny dose adjustments of 10-15ius at a time is if you are put on a much higher dose than typically works for most to begin with, like 200 iu or 250 iu. In those cases, if you are on such a dose and totally starving, I would immediately jump all the way down to 150 iu or 125iu and then go from there, raising in small increments as necessary once I have that lower starting point.
hCG Dosing for Men
Men in general seem to do best with slightly higher doses than women on average. A number of men seem to feel the least hunger on 200iu.
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The Dosing Debate
There’s really no set facts here- I’m just relating my observations based on my own experience and the experience of the many people that I’ve watched on youtube. Many weight loss clinics prescribed hCG injections doses of 200-250iu and most of the time, the patients are starving on this dose! Then they come on to youtube and the hcg community on youtube tells them to reduce their dose, and then their hunger goes away.
I repeat, many weight loss clinics prescribe hCG injection doses of 200-250iu and many times, the patients are starving on this dose!
I know, because I get all the “help!!” with multiple exclamation point!! emails.
People who have never done this diet but are administering it will get red in the face and insist that everyone feels good on these higher doses. I HAVE to speak up about this because it’s simply not what I have observed and patients are then blamed when they are having a hard time on the diet as if it’s their fault. I am not at liberty to prescribe you anything because I’m not a doctor, I’m a mommy blogger. 🙂 You must do make your own choice about what you will do with this information.
As you lose weight and get smaller, you will most likely have to reduce your dose. I now find 125iu’s to the best best dose for me. When I started I injected 150-165iu which was fine when I was more overweight. As I got smaller, I found myself getting hungrier on this dose, and reducing to 125iu eliminated my hunger again. I have noticed this same trend in many others as they lose more weight with this protocol.
Dr. Simeon’s original dose that he used was 125iu, injected intramuscularly (IM), into the muscle. When I first started the diet back in February 2011, most were injecting 150iu subcutaneously (SQ), into the fat layer. The idea behind the higher dose was that it was suggested that not as much hCG would be absorbed subcutaneously, so a little more was needed. This doesn’t seem to hold in true in practice though. I get to be in contact with a LOT of hCGers by private email, and I am finding a large number of people, including myself, doing quite well with 125iu-150iu, despite using subcutaneous injections- they are not hungry and they lose weight well.
How to Go About Adjusting Your Dose of hCG
Here’s some help finding these different doses on your syringe.
- If you were to start at 125iu and you felt very hungry, that would be a pretty easy fix as you can be almost positive you need to raise your dose, since 125iu is typically the lowest dose used.
- If you start with a dose of 150iu hCG, you may need an increase or decrease. One way to figure this out is to gauge when you are feeling hungry. If you are feeling hungry especially towards the end of the day, that may be an indication that your dose of the hormone is too low and you need to increase it. If you are feeling very hungry earlier in the day, that may be an indication your dose is too high and you need to lower it.
- If you are simply hungry ALL day long and there is no time of the day you aren’t hungry you are likely on either much too large a dose or much too low a dose. If you are on, say, 200ius or more (and this is not a rule, just a guesstimate) and feeling this way, my guess is that most likely you are much too high a dose for you- at this point a larger reduction to 125iu or 150iu might be in order to try first. If you are hungry all day and you are on 125iu, you most likely need an increase.
- If you have already started this diet on a higher dosage and are feeling ravenous, if it were me, I would make a big dose change right away, down. So if I had been on say 250 ius and I wanted to eat the kitchen table, I’d drop the dose to 125iu and see how I felt, then make minute adjustments as needed from there.
- If you were started on a lower dose in the range of doses that people in general feel better with, between 125 iu-175iu but are feeling hunger, I would start out with minor adjustments first rather than any big jumps – you are most likely fairly close to your ideal dose you just need to tweak it by another 25-50ius – it’s important when you’re in that range to adjust in these small increments because otherwise if you make too big a jump you could end up bypassing your ideal dose entirely and then you’ll still be hungry because both too high and too low a dose cause hunger.
- A more reliable possibly quicker way to know what dose change to make, once the hormone has been in your system already for at least a week, is to skip a dose entirely one day. That will make it pretty clear- if your hunger is much better on the day you skip a dose, you need less hCG. If you are markedly hungrier on the day you skip the dose, you need more hCG.
- As you can see, dialing in the right dose of the hormone is a bit of a guessing game and requires you to tune into your body a bit- however, it’s not as hard as it sounds most of the time, and once you do find a good dose, ensuing rounds of the protocol will be easier to get your dosing right from the beginning.
When Should You Expect to Feel the Effects of the Dose Change?
If you adjust your dose, how soon before you can tell if it’s changing anything for you? This depends a little bit on how much of a change you are trying. I’ll give you a couple examples to help you kind of find your way.
Starving on a High Dose (200-250 ius or so): In this case, if you drop to say 125iu or 150iu, it may take more like 2 days to really know if this new dose is good for you because it will take a little time for this higher dosage from the previous days to reduce in your system a bit.
Hungry on a Median Dose of 150iu: If you are on a dose that is nearer to the dose that most people feel good on, it is likely that you will notice the effects of a dose change more quickly, that very same day. Ie. if you change from 150iu to 125iu or 135iu, likely you will know if it’s better for you or not on the very day you change your dose.
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When Hunger is Not a Dose Issue
- When You Have Only Say, Fifteen Pounds to Lose
I have to write an article about this still, but for now, if you are on the leaner side, no matter what dose of hCG you try, you may be finding yourself with a constant nagging hunger feeling at the 500 calorie level – Robin Woodall, the author of the hCG book I referred to earlier, feels that this is because the hCG hormone is not able to stimulate as much leptin (which leptin allows for that feeling of satiety) in thinner people.
What this means is, if you are at that point where you only have 15 lbs or so left to lose, you may simply have to eat a slightly higher calorie diet while on hCG in order to feel comfortable- this can be anywhere from 600-800 calories.
The best way to decide how much more than the 500 to eat is to go by your hunger – there’s no need to decide to eat a certain amount of calories each day and stick to that number. Instead, see how you feel each day and eat more as necessary when you are hungrier, and you may still find some days that you are not as hungry, which it then makes sense to go ahead and eat less those days- basically a play it by ear type deal.
I’ve written a much more comprehensive article on sleep here (with tips on how to address sleeping problems as well) for you guys, but lacking enough sleep on this protocol interferes with the diet negatively in several ways. Two of them are that one, when you are awake more hours of the day than a normal person would be, then no matter what dose of hCG you are on, you may end up dealing with hunger – because you’re awake so long! And secondly, a small study in 2010 on how sleep (or lack of it) affects weight loss, found that, among other things, “When sleep was restricted, dieters produced higher levels of ghrelin, a hormone that triggers hunger and reduces energy expenditure.”
Whatever You Do….Don’t Just Let Yourself Be Hungry on hCG
Whatever you do, don’t let yourself be hungry on the protocol. This is not necessary nor it is healthy or advisable and it makes sticking to the diet almost impossible. It’s not about willpower okay? The hormone in the right dose is supposed to make the diet fairly comfortable, to an extent. Of course we’re all going to have emotional and social reasons for wanting to eat- that’s not going to just go away so easily, but the physical aspect of eating 500 calories or less on the diet should be manageable and fairly easy when you have the right dose of hCG.
Giving myself as an example, my 5th round of the protocol, when I “eat to hunger”- that is only eating when I’m hungry and stopping when I’m not hungry anymore, I’m only eating 300-400 calories a day, I’m not hungry most of the day at all, I feel great, my energy is the same as if I were eating 2000 calories on a normal diet and I’m getting a lot done.
What To Do in the Meantime – When You’re Still Hungry
So sometimes it takes a few days to figure out your best dosage right? So what do you do in the meantime while you’re still hungry?
Here are some suggestions to manage the hunger pains while you are making dose adjustments? Or as one hcger put it to me in a help email, “If at the end of the day Monday I’m ready to eat the kitchen table what would you eat to curb the hunger until the adjusted iu’s on Tuesday am have taken effect? How long does it take for those adjustments to kick in?”
YES we totally need tricks to not eat the kitchen table while getting it worked out-
So for me the things I would do to keep hunger at bay while getting dosage dialed in:
1. Miracle noodles– this is off protocol of course- if you haven’t seen my post on this already it’s here.
They are so filling and have no calories whatsoever. Makes your P2 like 3x as big lol. These do need to be put into a recipe to be tasty/edible- they can’t be eaten plain for a snack.
2. Pickles– almost no calories and have their own taste – they don’t need to be helped or embellished to enjoy. Grab and stop starving.
3. Lots of Tea in a QUART size jars with stevia
4. Additional P2 protein potentially- so you could add say 50g or a full 100g portion of shrimp or chicken breast- 100g of chicken breast is about 162 calories, or half that would be 81 calories, so that would only put you at 581 calories, or 662 calories for the day to add that if needed for a few days.
5. Additional P2 veggies– a lot of the veggies have very few calories- that can help. I even utilized additional vegetables that weren’t on the original protocol and found this was fine for my P2 weight loss – see my article on Modifications to the hCG Protocol.
Just remember if you feel bad/guilty or like you are cheating when thinking about deciding to have some of these above items, ask yourself what is better- to have that, or to just freak out because you’re so starving and you tried to just live with it so that you dash out and eat a whole pizza lol. It’s much wiser to make use of these little things that are part of the protocol or that have very few calories to keep you sane. Feeling hungry is not okay in my book!
How Long Before You Should Notice the Effects Of Your Dose Change
As far as how long it takes for adjustments to take effect- if your dosage was too high, it might take a little longer like 2 days to notice if the lower dosage is better because it takes a little time for the excess hCG to get our of your stream, vs. a dosage that was too low to begin with, you should notice right away/the day you take a higher dose if you feel better or not.
Let me give a you a couple possible scenarios – remember these are just guesstimates and not something to be relied on 100%.
Example 1: You are currently taking 175iu and you are starving – you adjust down to 125iu – if that dosage is the right one for you, you will likely feel a lot better that first day on the dosage change.
Example 2: You are currently on 250iu of hCG and starving – you adjust to 175iu (but your best dosage is really 150iu) – you may feel pretty hungry the day of your dosage change. You adjust to 150iu the next day- likely this 2nd day of dosage change you should be starting to feel less hungry, and by the 3rd day you should be feeling pretty good.
But this does lead me to my next point…..
MINOR Adjustments Are Often All That is Needed
I wanted to add a little input from a fellow hCGer and her experience with adjusting her dose, just to give you a feel for the wisdom in making only minor adjustments when you are already close to the general good dosing range for most people:
Angeli says, ” Thought you might be interested in what I discovered works well for me. I have been adjusting the dosage by smaller amounts. I started at .15, and learned on your website that if you are hungry in the evening it may mean that you are not getting enough HCG (which happened to me at about day 6).
So I increased the dosage to:
.155 the next day, was still hungry that night (she is speaking of units on the syringe – .155 would be 15.5 units on some syringes)
.160 the 2nd day, and was not hungry that evening
Now I am getting really close to my target weight – on day 21, I have only 4-6 pounds to go. I also learned on your website that when you get closer to your target weight, you may need less HCG. I found that I have been getting hungry a little bit earlier each day to the point of being hungry in the morning. So I have been decreasing my dosage by the same small increments of .005 daily for the last few days, and am down to .145. So far so good!
In summary, I think the smaller increment dosage changes are much better easier for my body to adjust.”
Where to Find Your Dose on the Syringe
If you’re not sure how to find these different doses on the syringe you can do that here:
How To Find Your Dose of hCG on the Syringe
Real hCGer Feedback on Finding Their Best hCG Dose
I wanted to share what others had to say, not just my own experience, so here’s what some of my followers wrote in to me:
There is no question that your personal intervention made it possible for me to continue with my HCG program last spring. The provider had suggested a certain dose–sorry can’t remember the specifics–but after about 10 days I had such hunger I was in despair. You advised reducing the dosage and that worked for me. I was able to continue, lost 14 lbs which I have kept off after completing the phases.
Tks so much. Love your blog and your kale salad.
The first week was so hard! That’s when I found your blog. I go to a clinic to get the HCG, and they were having me take 250 ius. I read your article, and decreased to 200 iu, then to 210 iu. It has been so much easier since I made the change. I’ve lost 18 lbs so far, and 2 inches from my waist!
“Hi HcgChica! I just wanted to briefly send you a huge THANK YOU!!!! I read your blog thoroughly before starting my diet and it helped wonderfully! This is the “easiest” the diet has ever been. The main thing that helped was your info on the right dose. I had been prescribed to take 200 iu. And I always felt completely and utterly miserable the whole time. I was constantly hungry and cheated out of sheer hunger!
But I loved how you explained if you’re hungry in the morning before noon, your dose is too high and if you get hungry late afternoon it’s too low. I immediately changed my dose to 125 iu and I had to remind myself it was time to eat!! It was a breeze. Towards the end of the 6 weeks I increased to about 140 iu and that was perfect. Thank you so much for all your help!!!”
OMG! Are you kidding me!! When I first started on HCG, it was through the nutritionist at my docs office. They started me out on 300 IU’s!! I spent the first couple of weeks soooo miserable. I even asked after the first week if the dosage was to high. The nutritionist said, no. Leave it alone and lets see how you do after another week. The next week, he looked at me like I was cheating or doing something wrong. Well, that was it.
After two weeks of virtually no fat loss, and all lean, and after watching enough of your personal vlogs and the educational ones, I got the guts to take my dosage into my own hands. I had nothing to lose…..but fat. Lol! It took quite a while to find that magic dose. I made the mistake of lowering it little by little first.
I wish I had dropped it all the way down to 125 iu and starting from there, but there was a lot of fear. I mean, I was getting it from a doctor’s office. Don’t doc offices know what they are doing? Eventally, I have learned, do your own homework!!! Get perspectives from those who have succeeded!! If virtually all of the people succeeding are using 1/4 of the dose you are using, pay attention, no matter what the doc’s office says. I will also mention that the docs office gave me the wrong syringes!! I couldn’t find the smaller doses. Oh, and you can’t just buy syringes and needles from the Pharmacy in California. So here I had all this HCG (12,000 IU’s, which would likely go bad before I used it all) and the wrong syringes, and a bad relationship with the nutritionist because I didn’t treat him like a god. I finally ordered them through a vet supply company.
Anyway, I am now on 140 IU’s and that is a very good dose for me. My first round, I lost 10 pounds of lean in the first two weeks. This round, I lost 10 pounds of FAT in the first two weeks!! That is how powerful getting the dosage right is. And your vlogs helped me get there.
Yes your info was very helpful on dosage …my ideal dose was 200 IU …trials with 150 IU ,170 IU left me with hunger pains…
On this round my dose is 125 IU, which felt good. I started eating Grissini part way in and my hunger skyrocketed. I conveniently disregarded your info that said bread can do that. I raised my dose to 150 IU to see if it would help. It did not! The hunger remained and I didn’t have my usual energy level. So, I am off of the bread and back to 125 IU. I feel great today and will leave the bread alone, for sure. I will be watching your vlogs religiously to help me learn to maintain and identify foods that are bad for me.
You’ve helped me many times with dosage, thank you!
I’m in menopause so finding a correct dose is tricky EVERY round. And in my 4 rounds, the dose has changed each time many times!
Round 1 started at 125 iu and went all the way down to 85 iu. This was a 46 day round.
Round 2 started at 100 iu and went down to 95 iu. This was a 28 day round.
Round 3 started at 125 iu and went between 100 iu, 110 iu, 115 iu. This was a 24 day round.
Round 4 started at 125 iu and went to 110 iu. This was a 23 day round.
Each round, regardless of the duration, I would take the 7th day off and check my hunger. If I was not hungry at all then I would maintain the dose or lower it by 5 iu’s. I usually had to lower it SEVERAL times during a round, and it was very rare that I found 1 correct dose and stuck with it the whole time. I usually adjusted every 4 days! I attribute this to menopause body 🙂
Hope that helps!
As I got hungry I would up the dose. I kept getting hungrier. After reading something from you I went down and hunger went away. Thx
You have helped me so much! In particular, you helped me find my right dosage. I was in Phase 2 for about 10 days, but I felt a little hungrier than friends said I would. I went to your website to see if you spoke about this subject. And, of course, you had a whole article on how to find the correct dosage. So I followed your directions (which were super easy). I increased my dosage by just 5 iu’s, and, voilà, I am no longer hungry except at meal times.
Thank you hCGChica!!
I started off at 150 iu and that actually ended up being perfect for me. I had amazing energy and often forgot to eat. I lowered the dose a little bit to see what would happen and it actually made me hungry and I ended up overeating and led to a cheat day. I moved the dose back to 150 iu and all was good again.
Yes and many thanks. The mystery has been solved, and now I don’t “freak out” when I notice the day to day differences while on VLCD. Most days I am hungry around 10am. Of course I haven’t had anything to eat since 6-7pm the night before so this stands to reason now. At 10am I take my shot (150 iu) and I am good the remainder of the day, there still is that late night snack craving around 9-10pm which I would love to do without but it is controllable. Keeping my eye on the prize and loving that you are there to give help and advice. Many thanks.
You definitely helped me with dosing. Thank you so much!! I started at 170 IU and dropped the dose several times until I got to 125 IU. It was hard to get my head wrapped around the fact that more is not necessarily better – and less can actually be ideal. Thank you so much for helping us all.
Thanks for all you do. Your knowledge and the info you share has made a difference between success and failure. I started on hCG injections at 200 iu and after reading how to adjust dosages from your blog, I realized I was hungry because my dosage was too high. I lost control for 2 days, 5 of the 6 ibs I lost in the first week came back. First, adjusted down to 17, still hungry, then 15, which is my sweet spot. No more hunger.
Thanks for your help last night. I decreased my dose and and feeling 100% better already. I had one bowl of tomato soup and am feeling pleasantly full
Convo between me and hCGer 15
hCGer 15: Hi hcgchica. So im doing injections. Today is day 29. Im injecting 160 units which has worked awesome for me. I have lost 14 pounds so far. But I have been stalling last 6 or 7 days. And my hunger is back. So much so that i cheated a little the last 2 days. My goal is 8 more pounds. I started at 152 and now im around 139. My goal is 130. Should I change my dose? Or is this all im going to lose? I want to finish the full 40 days but this stalling is demotivating me. And like I say my hunger is back. Never had a hunger problem until last 5 or 6 days.
Me: Since you mentioned hunger and you’ve lost 14 lbs I am thinking it’s possible your dose is now too high for you- it’s very common to need to lower dosage as you get thinner- If you try that, both your hunger and losses may be better. I can’t be sure of course, but that’s probably what I’d try if it were me- I’d probably try by dropping to 125ius and see how i felt for 2 days, then if it was better but not perfect, I might bump it back up just by 10 ius or so (ie 135 ius, 145 ius) till I felt okay. Remember I am NOT a medical professional so this is JUST my opinion- I am NOT prescribing anything here. This is what I would do if it were me.
hCGer 15: So 130ius of hCG is the dose!!! I tried 140ius the next day, it felt better but not totally. Then I tried 130 units and I was feeling amazing again. I had to remind myself to have my two proteins and veggies. I still haven’t seen any changes on the scale but I feel great again and will finish up the 40 days. Thanks soooo much for your advice!
I hope this helps you guys and I hope I’ve convinced you guys that it’s worth putting in the effort to find that sweet spot!
Convo between me and hCGer 16
hCGer 16: “Hi HCGChica! I love your webpage and you have been my inspiration to keep going. I am on round 2 (26 days) and really struggling with hunger. My first round I did Homeopathic pellets and they worked ok but had some hunger issues. But this round I ordered the shots thru your link. I started at 150. I am still struggling with hunger. I could eat lunch and about an hour later, I’m starving. I went down to 125iu and it was worse so then I went as high at 200iu and still felt hungry. So in the end, I went back to 150 and decided I would just have to fight the hunger. HOWEVER!, I am now on my period and still taking the shots and notice that I am much less hungry then before. So that has me thinking, should I be taking more? What does that mean? Is 200 the highest I should go? I am so lost. Do you have any advice that isn’t already on your blogs about how to get this right. On my normal (non-period) days I get to the point I just want to eat anything in site and not sure I can make it like that.”
Me: “Did you try a couple doses between 150 and 200? That’s actually a pretty big jump – you may have missed your sweet spot entirely– it’s possible that 165-175ius is good for you- I would definitely try some doses in there (maybe once your period is gone) – sounds like you just need a little tweaking between the 150 and 200 to get a sweet spot.”
hCGer 16: (a few days later) “You are an ANGEL! You were right. 175iu is my sweet spot. THANK YOU so much!”
“Hey! Just wanted to tell you that your website has really helped me. After one week of being on 125ius and starving I was ready to just give up. But after reading your article about dose I adjusted it today to 150ius and it was so much better. I wasn’t having that hunger pains all day like before. Thanks so much Rayzel!!!”
“HI Rae. I started hcg 23 days ago and lost 15 pounds. My prescribed starting dose was 150 and I was HUNGRY. I read the blogs on dosing here and dropped my dose to 125. It was better but I was still hungry so after 3 days I went to 140 and felt about the same as 125 (it seems like such a tiny insignificant amount) but I skipped right over my magic number ) I went to 130 and that was it. NO HUNGER. I get a slight twinge at 12 and 5pm and I eat . Perfect. I’ve had two stalls and I just continue the protocol and wait them out. I would recommend dropping to 125 and increasing by 5 iu’s every 2-3 days until you feel comfortable. Best wishes.”
Initially, I was to use 200 iu’s. I was feeling hungry at that dosage and I was tempted to cheat as a result. After listening to your video on dosing, I adjusted to 130 iu and that has helped me tremendously.
“I just wanted to share since this. I’m 47, went through menopause last year. I mean I went from not even premenopause to being in it in 6 months. In the last two years I’ve gained almost 20 lbs. Nothing I did, exercise, diet, seemed to help. I would lose 3-4 lbs over and over again but couldn’t break past it. I am short, so my ideal weight is somewhere in the 105lb range.
This is my first round of HCG and dosing has been a challenge. I started at 200iu as that’s what the directions said to do. I did this on my loading days Feb 11 and 12. Day 3…. could have gnawed off someones arm, I was so hungry at 200iu’s. Dropped the dose to 150iu for two days, was still super hungry, dropped to 125iu for 4 days, same. Dropped to 100iu for one day. was slightly better but wanted some carbs or sugar really bad. Yesterday, on day 11 I did a skip day to evaluate the dose. I felt so good yesterday. Barely hungry. Ate what I was supposed to eat…… no cravings. Felt in control for the first time in 10 days. Today, Feb 22, my dose was 90iu. This is the magic number for me today.
I feel great. I cooked breakfast for my family this am. The usual breakfast food, high fat, fried. It smelled good, but I had no desire to eat any of it or cheat. My stomach did not growl one time. I was amazed. When I made the toast, I did get this kind of down feeling as I wanted to eat a piece but just because I like toast. Not because I was hungry. Right now, I am eating an apple. I feel good. It’s awesome. I am also doing a very low sugar, low carb, high protein shake on days I can’t stomach eating meat. Meat is not my fav thing to eat on a good day.
I just want to thank HCGChica and everyone on the board who has shared their stories, struggles, and triumphs. Reading through all the information has helped me tremendously. I am looking forward to dropping the extra weight in comfort and ease. I am down 5 lbs in 9 days. Did have a few stall days but it was no big deal. I’ve not gained any back……… just a few days where I didn’t lose. My clothes are looser, my skin is clearer. I don’t miss the carbs or sugar and plan on detoxing the rest of my household from these during phase 3. It’s really helped my rosacea, which is triggered by something I like to eat. So all in all even though I am not done, I feel it’s been hugely successful for me so far. I’ve been able to identify where I eat from boredom and since I work from home, I use food to procrastinate doing work. So since I am not eating as much, I am much more productive.”
I’ve been meaning to send you my “dosage story”… and here you are asking for it! 🙂
I started at 150 ius. I was… definitely not starving, like all the other people were complaining online. It was totally manageable, but… I had this constant, nagging “better each lunch soon” feeling, and a very slight wooziness behind the eyes. In reading all the many different comments online, everybody else seemed to be quite literally starving if they were off-dose, and after a week I was to the point that I was thinking the hCG was probably just a placebo, and/or that I was being a huge wuss and I should just suck it up.
But then it was a Saturday, and I figured, “Eh… can’t hurt to try changing the dose since I don’t have anything particular to do today.” So I upped it to 165 ius… and I was markedly hungrier all day. Markedly. Still not starving, but I sure could tell the difference.
Next day, I lowered the dose 135 ius. Miracle. It’s almost incomprehensible that such a small amount of liquid could make that much of a difference.
I’ve been on that dose for almost the full 43-day round now, and excluding that first week, my hunger level has been one of three things, in pretty equal thirds, depending on the day: 1) Just hungry enough to eat at mealtimes, plus coffee and an apple for breakfast; 2) Not particularly hungry, but able to make myself eat at mealtimes; and 3) Can’t even be bothered to stop whatever I’m doing and force myself eat something.
Since then, I’ve been on an average of 250 to 350 calories.
Moral of the story: You’re not being a wuss. Just change your dose. 😉
I think I finally found the right dose! Woohoo!! I started out the first week at 150 IU and everything was fine. I had no hunger and lost 10.6 pounds in 7 days. Life was good. By the second week I started getting hungry and feeling rather light-headed by lunchtime. I started having either half a grapefruit or an apple for breakfast but it didn’t really help. I lowered my dose to 125 IU and things got even worse. I stuck it out for another week, fluctuating my dosage between 125-135. I was becoming ravenous by dinner time and all I thought about was how bad I was starving and was so lightheaded. I started taking glucose tablets when it got really bad but they didn’t help much. It was scary. That second week I only lost 3 pounds, which I know was still okay but it was a significant difference. I felt so awful that I was thinking about quitting. On day 19 I decided it was time for a drastic change. I read on your website about a menopausal women (which I am) who only needed 70 IU and I was debating whether to skip an injection to see if that would help or if I should up my dosage big time to see if that worked. I took a gamble and upped my dosage to 185 IU. Success! I feel SO much better…no hunger, no brainfog and I lost 3 pounds in 2 days!!
I have about 50 pounds to lose and so far I’m down 16.6 pounds from 213.6 (after a 3.8 lb load gain) to 197 as of this morning and I’m on day 20 (18 days VLCD). I’m so glad I didn’t give up.
Sublingual hCG user.
Ali first emailed me with this trouble: “I love the moments/hours when I don’t even care about food. But Lord Have Mercy – these last 2 days have been white-knuckling and I know I can only keep that up for so long. And I really want to overcome both the weight, but even more the eating issues for once and for all. I am all-in. Thank you again for your amazing generosity of spirit and your example.”
We discussed dosing and pretty soon she replied back with,
“Rayzel, I tried lowering my dose after I read that on your site and it WORKED! Thank you so much! I started off at .045 sublingual for 10 days and was so hungry I would spend hours surfing HCG recipes – which aren’t really all that mouth-watering! I also felt fuzzy-headed and couldn’t concentrate at work.I lowered it to 0.40 and yes, I still get deep belly grumbling, but my energy is constant, I feel alert and food doesn’t really call my attention. I even sat next to someone on an airplane who had a greasy breakfast sandwich and far from tempting me, it hit me as synthetic and overwhelming.
Love you! I am on p2d11. I was absolutely starving. I’ve done the protocol before about five years ago so I was really surprised I was so hungry. My doctor gave me 200 IU and I’m not a very large person. Because of your information I figured out that the dosage was way too high. The last two days I lowered the dose to 130 and I feel 100% better. I’m breezing through now. Thank you so much!!!!
This is my first time doing HCG. I had great results (43 lbs in 100 days). Your videos were a great help especially with the dose. I was always hungry until I saw your video and reduced my dose. I was put on the “Per Protocol “amount 0.250 cc (25 on syringe- which was likely 250ius of hCG). I did that for 2 weeks. I was so hungry. The person that got me interested in doing HCG (she lost a great deal of weight) mentioned she was on a much lower dose and her program allowed her more calories. I started searching the web to see what other said. I found your videos and after watching a few I realized you knew your HCG stuff. So I lowered my dose first to 20 then to 15 and then to 12ish. Mostly I stayed at 15 (150 ius of hCG), but as I said I was traveling during a create part of my time I was on HCG. The change in dose was a blessing, I was no longer starving. I have inspired 2 other’s in my staff to go on the Diet. They are amazed that I have gone down from a 14 to a very loose 8 and never turned into an grouchy boss while dieting. BTW, I am in Medical Safety for a large Pharmaceutical company, so you can bet I did my research on HCG.
hcger 26: hello! First and foremost, thank you for you time and effort to help us in the HCG journey. I purchased your workbook and love it. I ran into your post about adjusting dosage. I am on VLCD 9 and I was feeling hungry. My dosage was 200iu so I decided to try 150 today. At about 3pm I almost ate my arm off from the hunger I felt. I was BAD! I am confused now. Do I dose back up or down ? I was hungry at 200iu but nothing like what I felt today! ……
Actually I re-read your post and the next day I tried 175. It’s perfect ! I feel no hunger !! Incredible So two days so far at that does and I feel incredible. Thank you so much
Me: Thanks so much for this feedback Karen- I will add your story about dosage to the article – a quick question – if you could relate to someone else how you felt on the various dosages what would you tell them? That will give people a full picture to relate their own experience to to help them.
hcger 26: On 200iu I was hungry at night after dinner ( around 7-8). No hunger in the mornings at all. The hunger started at around day 5 of VLCD. Being that I usually go to bed late, in the evening all I wanted to do was snack. When I switched to 150 that morning I was okay , did my shot at 8am and at 3pm OMG the hunger came over me so intense. I almost ate my husband ! I don’t remember the last time I was so hungry. The next day I switched to 175. It was like a calming blanket came over me. I was hungry at normal times ( 12ish and 6-7ish ) but otherwise I have no had any cravings at all. Most definitely nothing like the hunger I felt when I did 150.I hope my story helps
Greetings! I just want to say that your information on dosing has been very helpful. I got my supplies from ……….. and they set my dose at 200iu of hCG a day. Based on your blog and my own research I started at 150iu. This worked really well for the first week. During my second week I have had to do a few night shifts at work. I decided to up my dose to 160iu for the week since my “days” will be longer. That small adjustment has worked like a charm and I have had NO hunger even with my inconsistent schedule. Thanks for all your work!
I’m not going to lie, the first week was hell. I had headaches and was absolutely starving. I then read the HCG blog, which is hcgchica.com (where I purchased my supplies and read up on the diet), and found out that my dose might not be right. When you get your supplies for the diet, you get a vial of hcg and draw up your dose which could be anywhere from 100-200 units. I started at 175 units since I figured I was heavier, but this is not right. I lowered my dose every few days (from 175 to 150 to 130 and finally 120). When you find your dose, you WILL NOT BE HUNGRY.
As far as the 200iu hcg goes, I had a HORRIBLE round last time staying at 150iu and not moving my dose in enough time to make a correction. I finally had to cut the round short (23 days) because I was so hungry. And I mean hungry to the point where I was eating over what I normally would without hcg.
I would wake up with the best of intentions, do my 150iu injection and get some work done. Around 10 I would have to have a piece of fruit to hold me over until lunch. Within an hour I was counting down until lunch. I’ve never been one to be a big eater and gained weight because of hormones so that was so unlike me. I found myself doing a lot of P2 tricks/corrections so I wouldn’t stall or gain weight. Evenings were the worse time. I usually eat around 5pm and if I stayed up longer than 9pm I was in the kitchen cheating. My hunger was uncontrollable. Something was definetely wrong and I had to fix it or the entire round would be ruined.
I began to research online (on your site) about calculating the proper dose and once I decided to make the adjustment. First of all, I paid attention to my hunger scale for the days that I was making the adjustment using a 1-10 method for meals. I discovered that my the evening was the worst time for me so I began to dose up. I went from 150iu up in 25iu increments. So from 150iu I went to 175iu for two days and still felt hungry so adjusted it up again to 200iu. That was the magic dose for me. I didn’t feel hungry and finally found the magic number. And even though it was a little late for that round, I was now equipped with the information and could move forward empowered that the next round would be better.
Armed with this information, I had a successful round this time losing 18lbs and feel good about making adjustments when necessary. I now understand that the dose is such an individual thing and won’t allow anyone to dictate what dose I should be at based on their past experiences.
hCGer 30’s initial email to me: “Hello! I have done hCG a few times and love it. I’m having a really hard time this time though figuring out the dosing. I weigh 158 pounds and am 5’6″ and I’m taking .20 (200ius) hCG every morning. I love crossfit as well and I’m just trying to get the last bit of fat off so that I can be more lean. HELP!! I’m starving by 10-11am!”
Me: Hey girl! If you are taking .2 (or 20 units) and you mixed your hCG 5,000iu to 5ml’s mixture, then that is 200iu you are taking. That’s probably too high for you at your level of leanness. If I were you I’d try what would be 12.5 units, which would be the hashmark (not actually numbered) between the 10 and 15 number on your syringe, that will be 125ius dosage. leaner people almost always need that smallest dosage.
hCGer 30’s reply: “Holy cow!! I feel like a new woman! I was researching last night quitting hCG because I felt so miserable. Now I feel like I can do this for two more weeks. Dosing makes a huge difference!!!”
Have your own dosage story to share? Please write in to [email protected] and I can add your dosage experience here!
Let me tell you that I really love your videos and you seem like a lovely person.
I was taking 150 IU of HCG and feeling sluggish and even a little depressed. I watched your video and decided to go down to 125 Iu and did see a little change in the day after but after that was very apparent how much better I felt.
hCGer 32: This is day 10, and since the first day of ravenous hunger, I’ve turned to your videos instead of eating. Every time I think I’m going to break, I grab my phone and watch one of your longest videos to distract myself and remind myself what I’m doing this for. I’ve been ravenous to the point of tears all day every day for 6 days now.
Through that process of leaning on you, I discovered that this starvation was not only not how I should be feeling, it was also totally unnecessary and fully avoidable on the right dose.
So today I dosed down from 175iu to 150iu. I took my shot an hour ago and still sort of want to grab a loaf of bread just to breathe it.
I’m dying here! Lol. Yet somehow I have not cheated.
When will I know if 150iu is right for me?
Me: It sounds like you don’t have it dialed in- you probably need to go lower still. You should notice in like 1 day typically if you were that hungry – I’d try 125ius. You can always change it again but being that hungry you need to make the change fast! Try 125iu and see how you feel!
hCGer 32: I ended up dosing down to 135iu yesterday after the 150iu on Tuesday gave me very, very little relief. It was SO much better! But I still thought I needed to maybe go down a little more. Then I got your email last night, and that sealed the deal. This morning I injected 125iu and I’m feeling fabulous!
My weight loss picked back up too. I know I didn’t mention it, but once the ravenous hunger set in, I went from losing 1.5 lbs/day to losing anywhere from .4 to .8 lbs/day. So for the 6 really miserable days, I was losing less. Today (after my 135iu day), I woke up down 1.4 lbs!!! So exciting!!! And I even had a large fountain Coke Zero from McDonald’s yesterday. That’s the first time I ever went off protocol. It was worth it to stop myself from getting a Big Mac. Lol!
So today I’ll gauge my hunger on the 125iu and see how my weight loss is in the morning. Then I’ll know if the 135iu or the 125iu is the best overall for me. I’m betting it’ll be the 125 just based on how insanely better I feel today vs every other day. Lol
Me: Please do let me know in the next couple days if the 125 feels best, and then maybe it’s okay.
hCGer 32: I can say this already: yesterday on 135iu lead to me starting to feel better, but I did splurge for that Coke Zero to keep my mouth busy and my cravings subdued. Today on the 125 I have no urges. I had nothing for breakfast – no desire shortly after my shot – then I had my VLCD lunch of chicken over lettuce. I was completely full after it. That’s a first! I feel good to go until dinner with no worries that that’ll change.
But just to be certain, for blog posterity, I’ll continue the 125iu and check in on Monday to let you know how it went.
Not being starving is AMAZING!!!
hCGer 32: I just wanted to let you know the 125iu is perfect for me. I’ve felt great all weekend. Very manageable hunger, and increased energy to boot. Thank you again so much for your advice!
“My first round was excruciating because I didn’t have the awareness of dosage and I was doing drops. Though I was successful, I was also miserable and starving. I’ve since switched to injections and learning about dose made a huge difference in my journey. Dose journey for me: I started at 175 IUs and within the first week dropped down to 140 (dropped 5-10 IUs a day). 140 ended up being my sweet spot for me for the bulk of the journey. For the last 10-15 pounds I found 130 to be more comfortable, I did test 125 IUs a few times but it just didn’t feel quite right. ( I’m 5’8 and 165 pounds – give or take 3 pounds and I lost about 35 total pounds). The difference between being over dosed versus under dosed was this: When my dose was too high I was strong, but irritable and hungry. When the dose was too low I felt weaker, and a little shaky. When I had it just right, I felt pretty good. On days where I knew I needed to be very strong (a long travel day or something), I would overdose by 5 IUs because I preferred feeling irritable over feeling weak.”
Not to sound a little dramatic, but I feel like you saved my life!
I am not new to the HCG protocol and without boring you with all my past experiences, this is the first time that I am connected to your resources and finally, because of you, I realized that I was on a too high dosage (250iu) and therefore it wasn’t working! I always lost the first 1.5 weeks when the Dr. still kept me on the lower dosage (150) and always stopped losing after. This time, for the first time, I decided to persist after the 3 weeks despite not losing weight and feeling HORRIBLE! I was ravenous. Tired. Couldn’t concentrate. Irritable. Depressed. It was crazy! When I read your blog about dosages, I asked the Dr. who just laughed and said it doesn’t make sense for “too much” hcg to be a problem.
Despite the craziness, I persisted the 4th week because the dr. said if I continue my body will “catch up” and I will lose A LOT! That 4th week I felt worse then ever. It was scary and ridiculous. I took matters into my own hands and lowered the dosage. Within 2 days, I feel like myself again! I can think! I can concentrate! I am not hungry…And finally….I am losing weight again!!!! If it feels like this, I can keep to this another two weeks!
It makes me sad that I suffered through this for no reason for so many rounds and attempts. At the time I didn’t listen to my body and trust the signals. With your information out there, and my improved ability to believe in my body, I am finally on track! I finally feel that this is going to work. I will unfortunately have to do another round because of the wasted 2.5 weeks but it will be a short 3-week round and then I will probably have reached my goal weight.
Now that I am on the right dosage, I feel like I could do this forever! It isn’t that hard anymore. It’s an entirely different experience.
I can’t say it enough…..Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
And also, my Dr. is finally realizing that he IS giving too high dosages to people and beginning to see that it could be harmful. You didn’t just help me but you helped all the people that will use him in the future.
I realized that my best days were my skip days. I did not want to mess with the dose. So, I started injecting at night! Now every day feels like a skip day! Zero hunger, awesome sleep, good energy, and wonderful feelings of well being. My 3rd round, totally different from my other 2. So happy!! I’m injecting 150 in the muscle. Trying to stay true to the original protocol.
I reached immunity–that means for a few days I was STARVING–dreaming of sugar, hunger pangs keeping me up at night b/c there was no hcg in me and I was eating 500 cals! (actually less!) Last night I got up in the middle of the night and ate a chicken thigh in the fridge that had a little oil on it…cos it was that or cookies!! This morning I was down 2.3 lbs –more than I lost in a whole week! Anyway, I went to day to full P3 hcgchica style that is and feel so much better. Just for the info cos I know dosing things interest you…I started at 125iu and within a week or so dropped to 100iu and that’s where I was for a few weeks comfortably. then started getting hungry again. so we experimented by skipping a day and I felt better so I dropped to 80iu and then I was SO hungry so went up again to 100 and still so so hungry and also–very little weight loss and feeling weak. Anyway, the forum’s expert people both suggested the immunity thing and that was my gut feeling one night when I was up with intense cravings. I never had cravings on hcg–hunger, yes , but not cravings and these were intense. I understood something is really off. The hcg was just mixed 2 weeks before and was in the back fridge. So that wasn’t the issue..or maybe–dont know. I had planned just to go another few days anyway. Anyway, that is my dosing story –Bubbles
Hey Rayzel, I just want to let you know how very grateful I am for you and the info you provide to the community. Particularly around dosing. I had done HCG through a clinic about 4 years ago…it was an uncomfortable white knuckle experience. So I dragged my feet trying it again. But I found drugs like Qsymia and Contrave even more uncomfortable in my brain. So I wanted to try again…thank goodness for you! The online pharmacy started me at 200 iu, with no further instructions. I had no idea how adjusting dosage can affect hunger levels and well being. So thanks to you, I knew I would have to start scaling back bit by bit. Sure enough, when I begin to feel hunger (I track hunger levels each day) I know it’s time to cut 10 IU out. One tip I’ve found amazingly helpful is close monitoring on skip days. I skip my injection every 10 days, and sure enough, I usually experience zero hunger on skip days. So I always cut 10 IU out following skip days. Today happens to be a skip day, following a day with higher hunger yesterday….so tomorrow I will be cutting dosage to 150, down from 200 1 month ago. I don’t think I could survive without the selfless info that you provide!! Thank you so very much!!! –Sue M
Another thing I thought might add to your body of knowledge is the IU’s that worked best for me. At the start of each of my rounds my weight has been 135 pounds. In my first round (which I did through a doctor’s office), I was on 200 IUs…and I was hungry. My 2nd round (done through your recommended source), I started at 150 but got hungry on the second week…I had found your website by then and I tried adjusting my dose based upon your recommendations. I was uncertain if it was because I was getting too much HCG or not enough, so in that round I upped my dose to 160, then 170…and it felt like I was starving! in my last week, I dropped my dose to 125…and that really helped. This time around I started at 150. I started getting hungry on my second week, so I dropped to 125. I dropped my dose down again to 110 IU’s in the 4th week and increased my veggies and protein slightly, added in some Wasa Light Rye crackers, and had a scoop of Hydrolysed Collagen Protein in a morning drink . My ability to make all of these adjustments, and therefore experience a much more “comfortable” phase 2, is directly related to the information I learned from your website. I did lose weight a bit slower which is why I went 4 weeks instead of 3. However, the experience was much smoother because of these little tweeks. -Rebekah
Just wanted to say thanks to Rayzel. I was struggling on the diet. Then I read a post she made about “it NOT being about will power.” She went on explain how adjusting your dose could help with hunger. I adjusted my dose from 15ml to 18ml over the course of a week. I’m not hungry anymore and it’s so much more bearable! I was just trying to power through it and now I have to force myself to eat my protein some days. So far I’ve lost 30lbs. Thanks so much for the help! -Nate
I didn’t realize you could feel better by reducing the dosage, but I reduced my plan to 125iu from 200iu and busted through a plateau with truly no hunger and happily avoided the apple day. I look forward to knowing my final numbers and of course to keeping the weight off going forward. As of now I am down 19.2 pounds and am finally no longer considered obese! -Suzie
The DietDoc put me on an 800 calorie program, I tried to do the Dr. S religiously in the beginning, then combined with theirs, but I had two problems I was hungry and I wasn’t losing. I am not a heavy eater anyway, but a bad eater, bread and cheese and butter and mayo. OMG, I struggled with cutting those out and I was STARVING in the first few weeks, DietDoc kept telling me to increase calories…. (I was fine first few days after loading though). After a couple of weeks of STARVING……I adjusted my shot dosage down (this didn’t help) I then adjusted my shot dosage up. Ahhhh at 200 I stopped wanting to eat non stop. I am not much of a meat protein eater, that part was hard for me. My loss was extremely slow going, however, I figured that would be the method for me. I’m down 10 pounds. I’m just about done with this round. I would have liked to have lost the 30 I wanted to lose in the first round, but I guess I’m going to have to try again. -ShaSha
I was following you when you first started your protocol online youtube and watched you when you first started as a quiet timid young lady and watched you become this assertive strong woman. I’ve emailed you a couple times about my struggles with starting hcg and how I failed due to many emotional issues. Well, I think I finally got it right and found my dose, which is important in continuing the diet after almost 2 years of trying at various times. I just turned 58 on the 4th of July and was bound and determined that this was going to be the round. The last round I had so many issues in my life that was a roadblock and although they are still here I ended up with a dose I wasn’t sure that was right. This dose was based on your information and that you acquired from your mom on the diet and other postmenopausal women. I believe I have found the right dose, which is very low, 80 units. I started the protocol on Monday with my 2 load days and I think I gained a little over one and a half pounds. It is now Saturday morning and I have lost 10.8 pounds. So thank you for publishing all your information. I believe I am on my way. Thank you so much. -Deb
I began a round of HCG on Oct. 21…I used one of the pharmacies you recommended and your discount (thanks!). This was my first round in 7 years so I was nervous about a new pharmacy and dosage etc. I have really struggled with hunger and low blood sugar on some of the days…I looked on your page and very quickly found some good answers. One surprising suggestion was to adjust the dosage DOWN…I expected that I needed more since it “wasn’t working” and that stressed me out since how would I have enough? After reading the suggestion to reduce the dose, I tried that this morning (after waking up hungry again)…and I already feel better and more in control. I was afraid I was never going to be able to finish the round, but now I have hope and determination again…so nice to not have that hunger driving me crazy. -Karen
The very first time I used the homeopathic drops, it was from my doctor, so I knew that the drops were good.
Over the next few years, life happened and the weight crept back up. By this time my doctor was no longer giving out these drops and it was about the time HHCG got harder to find. So I bought some from what I thought was a good place, only to find out about a week into it I was starving. Well, it was easy to put the blame on the drops since I got them online. This happened a couple of times, buying drops from different places. Talk about getting frustrated! I gave up for a few years.
I finally found your page about dosages, and I tucked that info away because I wanted to try again!
I bought some drops, and again a few days into it I was getting hungry, so this time I reduced my drops from 10 to 8 three times a day and the results were immediate! I couldn’t believe it! I just finished a FULL 40 day round and lost 24 lbs with very little hunger! I will take a little break, 3 weeks, and do another round!
I’m currently doing my 3rd round of HCG. I started at 253lbs last February and got to 220 in the first round. Then I did a round of 30 days in May/June and got down to 200. I decided to hang at that weight for a few months, which I did successfully. I started last week at 205 and am ready to get to my goal weight of 175. But this round, which I started last week, I was starving the first four VLCD. I was freaked out–there was no way I could do this for 36 more days. But I went on your site and saw your article about lowering the dose. My dose was prescribed for the same amount (250iu) as when I started 50 pounds ago! Anyway, I switched it yesterday to 175iu and immediately had a much easier day! And today has been even better. So I am simply writing to say thank you thank you thank you! I was really depressed–dreading a round of being starving all the time. But fortunately, thanks to you, that isn’t going to happen.-Ben
How could I have been sooooooo dense. I have read your blog on the correct dosage and didn’t really absorb the information – really could it apply to me? So, I am on my 3rd round of HCG, I have done 2/21 day regimes, the first was great because I dropped from 170 – yeah yikes, to 150. (I’m in my late 50’s an post menopause). The second go around I was ALWAYS hungry. I dropped about 8 pounds, but went out of town and didn’t really follow the phase 3. So I decided, on additional go. I started the HCG and after 3 days, was dying…..so hungry. I began to play around with the dose, a bit higher, a bit lower, but discounted the advice for dosing at 70, until the second week. Oh. My. Goodness. what a difference that made. My stall in weight loss dropped 1.4 lbs the next day, and .8 the following. And, I’m not starving. Why oh why did I not this this applied to me?! It hasn’t been quite 2 weeks, but I have dropped a total of 8. To some this may seem not enough, but this is fat, and I am 5’8″. Hoping for and additional 5-7 lbs, now that I have the dose figured out. My advice to your readers, especially those of you in you 50’s and above. Consider the lower dose.-Lori
Another thing I thought might add to your body of knowledge is the IU’s that worked best for me. At the start of each of my rounds my weight has been 135 pounds. In my first round (which I did through a doctor’s office), I was on 200 IUs…and I was hungry. My 2nd round (done through your link), I started at 150 but got hungry on the second week…I had found your website by then and I tried adjusting my dose based upon your recommendations. I was uncertain if it was because I was getting too much HCG or not enough, so in that round I upped my dose to 160, then 170…and it felt like I was starving! in my last week, I dropped my dose to 125…and that really helped. This time around I started at 150. I started getting hungry on my second week, so I dropped to 125. I dropped my dose down again to 110 IU’s in the 4th week and increased my veggies and protein slightly, added in some Wasa Light Rye crackers, and had a scoop of Hydrolysed Collagen Protein in a morning drink .-Rebekah
The dosing advice you have given on your website is very helpful! In my own story, I assumed I would need a higher dose so I was messing around with going above 150units for a while. I read another readers experience, as well as thinking through the symptoms you described. After feeling pretty low for the first 2 weeks (hungry, grumpy, feeling like I couldn’t go on) something clicked for me. I realized that if the symptom of dosing being too low was not being hungry ALL DAY, until the evening, I wanted that!!! So I dropped my dose to 100 units and WOW- what a difference. After that, every time I dosed higher I felt hungry and frantic all day. Some days I even went lower. Of course I still had some days better than others but it was a big deal to realize that I could have good days on this diet! I plan on doing one more round next spring and this knowledge makes me more confident.-Hillary
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Hi there. What you think about leptin is probably the issue.. The N.P. I see has speculated that and possible cortisol issues, while I am not even doing hcg. It figures I would be the lucky one to have to have that, along with hypothyroidism, p.c.o.s and just recently put on a migraine medicine that is likely to cause weight gain and metabolism issues. I have all the weight gain issues and hindrances all rolled up in one fat package. Lol. How did the people who fasted do their fasts? Did they load and start the diet and at some point do the fast? Also, did they continue injecting hcg on the fast days? I am gonna try hcg again here, but am willing to try anything if I struggle again. Again, thank you so much for your help and time. I just bought your book. It should be delivered tomorrow, so looking forward to that. You are great!
I’m so sorry girl. It’s so frustrating when these issues come up. My own mom actually was one of the few that had this problem- we tried every single dosing for her and she was just always hungry on hCG no matter what- it felt so unfair! For the fasting, the couple ladies who mentioned it just drank only water I believe- it has been a long time honestly since I remember them telling me this, so I don’t remember exact details, only that they fasted for 2 days with only water and then somehow they weren’t hungry on the diet after that on the 500 cals. I think they loaded because they decided to try the not eating thing once they were already on P2/vlcd and having the same problem as you. Someone else also mentioned that being sure to load properly was key too- as in not loading enough led to never having their hunger go away- oh yES! I remember that now too- another gal did a mini-load after deciding she hadn’t loaded properly and couldn’t get hunger under control, and that worked for her- I think she loaded like 1-2 days mid round and then felt better after that. That’s all I know at this time sadly. I hope that helps a little. If you figure out a solution, please do let me know because it would be a good topic to cover more in depth on the blog here especially if we can find a couple of reliable solutions!
I forgot to tell you how much I am trying to lose. I want to lose 50-60 pounds. Thanks
Thank you so much for getting back to me. I was not blaming you for the companies issues, just wanted you to be aware of how they were handling things, since they could have told you otherwise. This was a little bit ago when I attempted this, so I wanna say I was put on 150 to start. I believe I atrempted a couple lower doses down to 125 and possibly lower than that, not sure. I read about all these people that are given a lot of hcg and it gives them room to play around with dosing, however, I get just the bare minimum. So playing with higher doses worries me bc I obviously won’t have enough product for the days. I personally believe that if you pay for 23 or 46 days or whatever then the companies should give you that amount, in the dose you need. Unfortunately, wishing this doesn’t change much. I did chat the company and ask their procedures for handling this and their response is pretty obvious that I wouldn’t get extra hcg if I needed it. I have not only read on your site about the importance of proper dosing, but heard it from two separate doctors as well. I told the company this and was just told that most people aren’t doctors and don’t know and that they address the diet first. I am assuming addressing the diet means telling me to eat more bc that is what they had said before. Other than that, I have no clue how they deal with the diet if someone is following it to the T. I actually was following it better than they suggested bc some of their information wasn’t exactly as protocal. I also gave up the melba toast etc in order to cut on cravings and still had problems. I was recently given Metformin bc of P.C.O.S, so I am hoping a new round of hcg with the Metformin will help some of my outrageous cravings, due to a more stable blood sugar. When I did the other rounds it was crazy. I would be hungry in the evening, which is usually when I tend to eat and crave the most regardless of dieting. But, I had crazy cravings and felt like I needed to eat so much to the point that when I gave in, I was eating junk and so fast that I felt like some kind of bulimic when they were bingeing. I am trying to give you all the information I can think of so maybe you can help. I appreciate everything and thank you for taking the time to listen to me. I know you get tons of people crying out for your help. So again, thanks.
okay let’s see, with 50-60 lbs to lose, it’s possible your sweet spot may be in the 175-200iu range. I’d give that a try if it were me. Also one other thing that I do occasionally see is that on occasion, no matter what dosing is tried, hunger is just a huge issue and in these cases it seems possible that leptin resistance is an issue. There’s this crazy idea to try but a couple of told me it worked for them- must sharing in case – they said they had tried every dose, they were starving, and they decided to fast for like 2 full days and then after that, it’s like they were okay with the diet and the dosing and their hunger went away. I have no idea why exactly that would do something, I know it sounds crazy- not sure if it’s playing some role with either insulin or leptin to help reset something, but just sharing in case you are desperate. I completely understand what you are meaning about the bingeing starving thing- I have felt that type of hunger before too and I agree it’s to be avoided at all costs!
Hi, I have previously attempted hcg twice, using injections from a company you recommend. I had terrible hunger and cravings. I asked the doctor if my dose was correct because my husband was also on the same dose as me and he wasn’t having any issues. I was just told to eat more food. I ended up attempting on my own to lower the dose at different times to see if that helped, but was scared to try more bc you only get so much in the vial and the stuff is expensive. I kept hoping I was one pf those people that required a lower amount than 150. Long story short, it didn’t seem to work and I gave up on both different times, meanwhile watching my husband lose so much weight. I am still struggling with weight and have considered hcg again, bc I know it works and I so want it to work for me. The problem is, this company doesn’t seem to adjust dosages. I asked and they said they adjust diet first, meaning I will most likely get told to eat more food again. I don’t want to do that. I want to lnow that if I pay $400 for some many days then I will get that many days at the dosage I need. Anyway, I need your advice. This is a company you recommend and I would be getting a discount through you. My husband told me to talk to you about this, since you do recommend them and may not know they are acting like this. Plus, he said you may have advice for me as to what I can do. Thanks so much, I love your site and you. I talk to my husband about things you say and he says that I talk about you like we were just hanging out or something and you told me information. Lol. This is my first time posting and I am really lost. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Hey Lindsay! I’m sorry you are struggling so much with hunger and dosing- it can be tricky sometimes. I recommend these hCG sources PURELY as a source of affordable prescription hCG, nothing more. I view my blog as the place to get info for other things like diet and dosing stuff. Most clinics just don’t know enough about all that stuff, so that is not part of it to me. There are very few places to hCG online and it’s much cheaper online than a brick and mortar clinic so that’s what I view these sources as – a way to legally get prescription hCG, that’s it – does that make sense? For the rest, I feel it’s up to each of us to read up (like you’re doing! That’s great) and figure out the rest ourselves. I hope that makes sense. How much weight would you say you have to lose? What dosages have you tried so far? We’ll try to help!
How long to cycle with HCG for men and women ? To see some benefits? From a weight loss standpoint
This is Cristel, Rayzel’s assistant. Nice to meet you! 🙂
Rayzel has an article on her blog that will help to your question. Here’s the links:
Timeline on the hCG
Proper Length of Time on hCG
Specific post on # of injections and days etc:
Hope that helps!
Julie Mccartney says
I am not new to HCG injections, but I have always purchased from a doctor where the syringe have been preloaded with 125 iu. I recently purchased 5000 iu of HCG. I already mixed the HCG and B water 1:1 ratio and want to start with 150 iu. I have the 1 ml / 100 unit syringes, but I am alittle confused on exactly where the hcg amount should be on the syringe. Numbers are labeled 10,20,30, 40 etc. Can you help me out? Thanks
This is Cristel, Rayzel’s assistant. Nice to meet you! 🙂
Rayzel has an article on her blog that I think will help answer your question. You can find that here: http://hcgchica.com/find-hcg-injection-dose-syringe/
Hope that helps!
How does the hCG affect birth control, such as the Nuvaring?
Does it interact with any other medications?
What are the effects of hCG on autoimmune diseases?
Is there a rebound, hormone wise, after completing the injections?
Why is the price so high? You can purchase 10,000 IUs of hCG ($58+$25 international shipping ) from European pharmacies that provide quality control testing like the American pharmacies you have mentioned?
Insulin syringes run at four dollars for 10 of them at cvs no ex needed. These are the ones that are being used for the subcutaneous injections. Bacteriostatic water can be purchased relatively cheap around $25 for a container. You could also make your own LARGE supply if you just benzyl alcohol at $6 for a 50ml vial.
So I don’t understand why such a cost difference?
This is Cristel, Rayzel`s assistant. Nice to meet you! 🙂
Regarding the birth control thing, while Rayzel can’t give you specific like scientific type advice, She do know there are tons of women doing hCG and plenty of them are on birth control, so in that respect she is not aware of it being a problem.
Also, Dr. Simeons, the one who made the original protocol, did not object to his patients using contraceptives while on the HCG diet protocol. You can download the original protocol here:
Rayzel have more than one autoimmune illness and her body is like OVERACTIVE IMMUNE SYSTEM all the way- She cannot take any supplements at all- no vitamin d, no b vitamins, She`s allergic to many herbs and other supplements that most people would think of as healing- my body just likes to pretend that everything is a foreign invader to be destroyed and the symptoms She`ll get from this are extreme fatigue and depression. As long as she stay away from all this stuff, taking nothing and eat the foods she is not allergic to, Rayzel feel great. Despite all this, she can take HCG just fine and actually feel really good.
The price difference for hCG online is whether or not it’s hCG that’s made overseas, or made in the U.S. The reason the pricing is different is because U.S. made hCG is highly regulated by the FDA and this costs money. So to give you an example, by law in the U.S., every single batch of hCG that is produced must be both potency and endotoxin tested (tested for bacteria growth). If it doesn’t meet certain standards, the batch must be destroyed. This is regulated by the FDA. Overseas, while it is assumed that this type of testing is done, it’s not regulated, so one can’t be sure of the quality of hCG they’re getting. This is not to say it doesn’t work. Rayzel thinks it often does but people make different decisions when it comes to what they want.
Hope that Helps!
Mo Adams says
Just sharing my story in case it helps someone. I’ve done HCG twice before, each time doing the tablets/troches. The first time the tabs were 250iu. They make them higher because they’re not absorbed as well as injections. The second time they were 300iu. This third time the tabs were 500iu. The doctors fell into the trap thinking more HCG meant better.
The first 3 days I was RAVENOUS. I couldn’t eat enough. I went over my calories every single day. I was tempted by everything. Nothing would satiate me. When I asked, they said I just had to fight through it. But I have done a few rounds of HCG and never felt that way. In fact, other than a mental hunger, I always felt great my first few days. I ended up gaining weight over my first 3 days smh. Then i remembered this post on dosage.
I knew I was hungry in the mornings, so I decided to skip a day. I felt so much better! But I ended up just taking a half a tab that afternoon. I made it through the whole day feeling fine! My losses have jump started and I’m just calling the first 3 days a learning experience. The great thing about it is I get double the number of pills now for the same price!
I also realized on every single round that my losses stopped around the second week, no matter how long I went. I always told myself I would never go more than 2 weeks just because it felt like a waste. But for the first time, I’m thinking….maybe I just needed a dosage adjustment. I’m going to try that this round when my losses slow down, lower my dosage, and see if that jump starts my losses again. I’m excited for the experiment. Although I don’t know how I’m going to cut the tabs even smaller….hmm.
Anyway I hope this story helps someone. More is not always better. I feel much better now and I’m super excited to see how much I can lose this round.
Mo Adams says
Came back to update you all. Yesterday I decided to do a skip day and I felt AMAZING, probably better than I’ve felt this whole round. I think the 250iu troche may still be too high a dose, so I’m playing operator and cutting the troches even smaller, aiming for more around 200iu. I’ll assess for a week, try another skip day, and see how I feel.
I ordered from Fast Escrow and I was sent the package with the red (40 unit) 1 ml insulin syringes. I mixed 5,000iu HCG w/ 5ml Bac Water.
According to HCG Chica my 125 doseage should be at 5 on this particular syringe size.
Problem is, I am on day 6 of Phase 2, and I am waking up weak and very hungry.
I am also fetting hungry 1 hour after my meal.
I have never had this happen in the past with the local compounding pharmacy I ised to get my pre-mixed HCG from.
They always gave me a 1/2ml syringe, and my dose line was 12.5. It was perfect.
I don’t know if I need to go up or down with my dose.
I dosed at line 6 today instead of 5 on this 1ml syringe. I don’t have any answers, and I am not a rookie with HCG.
I am so hungry!!! I shouldn’t be.
I know the hormone is there because I loaded and gained just fine.
I am loosing, but totally uncomfortable.
I think I need dose help. This larger syringe is hard for me to figure out.
If you use 5 from the 40unit syringe that would be 125iu and 6 would be 150iu. Seems like you may need to re-adjust your dose again if you are still feeling hungry. There’s no 100% rule for knowing whether to increase or decrease which is what makes it hard but USUALLY if you are having trouble during the whole a.m., your dosage might be too high, and if you are having major trouble towards the end of the day, dosage may be too low (meaning the dose you took in morning isn’t lasting in your system long enough to help you in the evening.) But this isn’t always the case.
May I know how much more you need to lose? ‘Coz some people, when they have less weight to lose, there may likely be no dosage of hCG that will keep hunger at bay without increasing your calories to some degree. Rayzel found this to be the case for her – hCG at that point just can’t stimulate your leptin levels enough to eliminate the hunger so you just have to eat more and lose a bit slower.
Li-an, Rayzel’s assistant
I was prescribed a 6000iu kit.
The large mixing needle broke while I was almost at the top of the 3ml point. Now I can use my .5 syringes to complete the process, but afraid to get the formula wrong.
By the way, everything I see on line references 5000iu?
Why is my formula different
Actually, different hCG sources have the different hCG kits – this is just the amount of hCG IN A VIAL. Example: 2000iu, 5000iu, 10,000iu in a vial. But technically, 1iu is 1iu. What really matters is on how much iu’s you will be injecting each day. It’s just that 6000iu vial will of course last longer than the 5000iu vial.
I hope this helps.
Li-an, Rayzel’s assistant
Hi HCG Chica! Thank you so much for all of the hard work you put into your blog. You are amazing! I am hoping you can help me. I am really freaking out after reading about high doses going against fat loss. I already purchased (can’t get a refund at this point) 6 weeks of pre-made syringes of 250 units and I am worried my dose is too high!! I spoke to my doctor about this and she said she has been doing this for 10 years and when she put people on a lower dose they were hungry. My hunger is bad about an hour after dinner but I seem to be pushing through. I am on day 7 of round 4 and down 6 pounds. My worry is if I am on too high of dose I won’t lose and maybe lose muscle according to your article. I don’t understand how this can happen just by putting too much HCG into your body as long as you are sticking to diet? My weight loss was not spectacular on the other 3 rounds(20 lbs. on the first round, with mild hunger, 10 lbs on the 2nd round with lots of cheating, and 16 on third round(I gained 6 between rounds two and three). I am determined not to cheat this round and I need this to work. HELP! BTW, I have 40 pounds to lose.
Gen, hCGChica team buddy says
Thank you for your kind words. I will make sure Rayzel read your comment. She’d be thrilled to know you read her posts.
You said that you already purchased 6 weeks of pre-made syringes of 250 units but you are worried that your dose might be too high – I understand your concern but we cannot give you much info about this.
Rayzel has not used pre-made syringes. What she does is she keeps the hCG in the vial until she needs them each day which allows her to change her hCG dose as needed. This is what she did in all her rounds. Rayzel’s experience has been that she makes adjustment to her dose as she loses weight. This is not to contradict what your doctor is saying at all. Your doctor did say that she has been doing hCG for 10 years and she’s telling you what works for her. So really, this is a decision you make for yourself here. In the end, it’s your choice what you choose to experiment with. If you decide to dose by yourself you need to know how your hCG was mixed to know the right iu.
I hope that whatever you end up deciding to do, it works out for you.
Hi, I am on day 5 of VLCD. I am not hungry, really have to remind myself to eat which seems good, however I have only lost 0.2 pounds in this time. Not sure what to do next. Wondering if I am not eating enough food, especially protein and if this could be the reason. Thank you in advance for the guidance.
Gen, hCGChica team buddy says
What you are feeling is actually normal. When you have the right hCG dosage, you won’t feel hungry. It’s okay to sometimes not eat the whole 500 calories on the diet like Rayzel talked about on this blogpost: http://hcgchica.com/eat-less-500-calories-hcg-diet/. As for your only losing 0.2 pounds – there are a few others who did find that when they eat too little, they experience stalls, but you can give it some time.
The average weight loss women experience on this diet ends up being about a 1/2 lb a day – and if you think about it, this makes sense. To lose 1 lb of fat every day, your body would have to burn 4000 calories a day (3500 calories per pound of fat, plus the 500 calories you are eating on the diet). Please keep in mind this doesn’t translate into actually losing 1/2 a lb every single day – some day you might lose 1.5 lbs, other days ZERO – in the end, it usually averages out to about .30-.65 lbs per day. I hope that helps give you some perspective.
Gen, hCGChica team buddy says
Rayzel has a post that might answer your question. You can find it here:
If it was me, I’d probably go to P3 for a few weeks to maintain some of the weight loss and then start the 2nd round.
Really sorry for the late reply. You might have already finished your round by the time you read this.
Ive been reading these comments every day to see if somehow it can help me figure out my dosage problem but still feeling lost 🙁
I started out at 125 IU injections, 5’4″, 150 and was really hungry the first week but realized from reading your blog that was because i didn’t do the loading phase, the hunger definitely got easier after the first week and then i got my period and was STARVING for that week, after my period passed i was hoping the hunger would too but it didn’t so i decided to slowly up the dose after reading your blog. i lost about 10 LBS the first 2 weeks and then had a stall for 4 days. i went up each day by 10 IU until i got to 175 IU 2 days ago and felt like that may have been my sweet spot, but then the second day on that dose i was soooooo hungry around 1:00 and couldn’t hold off eating my lunch which i usually eat at 2:00, i ate it and then felt SO HUNGRY again a little bit after and then hunger kept getting stronger until about 5:00, and then got better until 7:00 when it was time for dinner and wasn’t even that hungry…. Im so confused as to which way to go now? Keep going up? Go back down again? Try to jump back to 125 and start going up slowly again?
Im on day 23 of 40 day round, at 137.8 LBS now and have about another 13-15 LBS possibly left to lose….
Ive asked my Dr and he told me to jump up t0 250 but reading your blog that seems way too much, i called the pharmacist that i got my HCG from and he said go to 175 and if still hungry keep going up…
What are your thoughts? Im so lost and not sure how much to take today or take none at all?! 🙁
OMG! I am so so so thrilled I found this page! This is my fourth round of HCG (I did three rounds three years ago) and my weight stayed off amazingly. But then I got pregnant last fall and had a miscarriage at 14 weeks. I wasn’t able to loose the weight I had put on while pregnant and I became depressed because of the loss and gained more…
Long story short, I know what to expect with hcg, so when I became excessively hungry yesterday I was like “Why!?!?!”
I was beyond hungry, I was straight up HANGRY!! I was angry hungry!
I am only 6 lbs from my goal weight, and I want to hold off on getting off the HCG until I hit my goal weight. But yesterday I was SO discouraged!!! I was MORE THAN STARVING! That’s when I found this blog!
I have always taken 125iu… But this morning I lowered my dose to 110iu… and I AM SO MUCH BETTET TODAY than I have been the last 3-4 days!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
I cannot believe lowering the dose by that tiny amount helped SO VERY MUCH! But oh how happy I am that it did!!!
I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experiences with us! You have TRULY helped me more than you know!!!
Hey I am on R1 P2 D2.. I am doing 170iu and find that by afternoon my stomach is grumbling. I also had a black cold brew this morning and I am not sure if it is that or the dosage but I was super jittery and a little shaky for a few hours this morning. I was wondering if you think I should change my dosage or give it some more time.
hcgchica's helper says
Hunger is completely expected the first few days on the diet- your body does not adjust immediately. However, after a few days, if the hunger doesn’t go away, your dosing may likely be off and it’s actually the dose of hCG that determines hunger or non-hunger.
Hi! This is my first time doing HCG and I was slightly hungry the first few days (after thinking about it, I’m attributing that to not having loaded properly). I’ve been dosing at 175iu, so when the slight hunger continued through VLCD day 4 I decided to try to lower my dose day 5 and I was STARVING all day, it was terrible. Today I went back up with my dosage and did 185iu hoping maybe that would help, but I’m wondering what you would suggest? I’ve lost 8.8 pounds so far, and have at least 40 more to go. Thanks!
I’m age 50, with 150 lbs to lose. I’m ashamed to say that the 3 day gorging period was how I eat normally. And this is why I weigh 280 lbs.
This is my 4th day on Phase I 500 calories and I’ve lost 4 lbs. I actually gained 1.5 lbs yesterday. I wake up hungry and go to bed hungry. I’m using HCG injections, 150iu, from Triad Rx. I’m hypothyroid and take ThyroGold and Levoxyl. I stopped using my estrogen cream per the instructions included with the HCG from the pharmacy.
Please help me. What am I doing wrong?
Gen, hCGChica team buddy says
Really sorry for the late reply. I know it’s late and you might have already finished your round but I’ll answer your questions just the same as this might help you in the future when you start your next round.
It is possible in your case you might need a higher dosage – you might give 200 , 225 or 250iu’s a try and see if that changes your hunger – please remember I’m not a doctor so this is not medical advice, but if it were me in your position, I’d try that different dosage right away myself for comparison.
Hunger is completely expected the first few days on the diet. Your body does not adjust immediately. However, after a few days, if the hunger doesn’t go away, your dosing may likely be off and it’s actually the dose of hCG that determines hunger or non-hunger. You can see Rayzel’s detailed blog post on dosing here: hcgchica.com/dosage
Additionally, how hungry you feel first week also has to do with what food you loaded on – if you eat a lot of sugar and carbs while loading or if your prior way of eating in day to day life before starting the diet contained a fair amount of sugar and carbs, then you might be experiencing a carb withdrawal period. Your body can run on the carbs left in your system from prior eating for a couple of days and then when it runs out you can feel hungry and crummy in various ways until your body gets past it and finally adjusts to the diet.
With that said, if that is the contributing factor to your case, one other thing that may help make your first week on P2 go more smoothly in the future is to do the pre-hCG diet for 7 to 10 days and to low carb load. You can find Rayzel’s post discussing the topic in detail here:
Hi HCG Chica. I am on Phase 2, about day 20.One my skip day, I wasn’t hungry at all. I actually skipped because i forgot to take the injection. I pulled this number again this week, and i still notice on skip days I have less hunger than ever. What are your thoughts on injections every other day? I have had to adjust my dose between 125 and 175. I currently take 155- 160 iu. Can I do the every other day?
hcgchica's helper says
That might mean you need a lower dose than what you’re currently taking.
You might want to try going down to 140 or 130.
Martha Tapia says
Hi I am getting extremely confused with all this mixing. If I received a 7500 iu vial of hcg and mixed it with 10cc saline. I am being instructed to inject 30 units or .3 . What is my concentration??
hcgchica's helper says
There’s no 100% rule for knowing whether to increase or decrease which is what makes it hard but USUALLY if you are having trouble during the whole a.m., your dosage might be too high, and if you are having major trouble towards the end of the day, dosage may be too low (meaning the dose you took in morning isn’t lasting in your system long enough to help you in the evening.) But this isn’t always the case is all. Hope that helps you somehow!
I need your help with dosage adjustment. I’m 55 yrs old. Periods stopped at 48. Ive done this diet two times before. When I go off the diet and eat healthy, meat, vegetables and fruit I maintain the weight. I can only eat bread, etc sparingly. On a recent two week vacation I gained 10 lbs. my belly gains 3-4 inches and doesn’t go away. So I went back on the diet a week ago using your pharmacy. I am 5’5″ and started the diet at 153 lbs. the lowest weight I have been able to get to is 138. I really felt good there. Although I would like to get to 135. I am small boned. So, I started the diet with 17 units of HcG. First four days did fine. Ever since I am hungry for dinner by 4:30. And very hungry at 10:30 pm. I drink apple cider vinegar to feel better at bedtime. Hard to go to sleep when you are hungry. I’ve been increasing the HcG a unit at a time up to 20. No change. Do you think I should try a much lower dosage? I gained 1.2 lbs on load days and ate very little carbs/sugars for one week prior to the program. After my first week I am down only 3.2 lbs from my original wt. I lost very little inches total.
hcgchica's helper says
Menopause women usually have a harder time finding the right dose for them, we’ve received reports of menopausal women doing okay at 90 iu and another one at 185iu, so it’s a case to case basis. You can read Rayzel’s detailed dosing post here: hcgchica.com/dosage
Hope that helps!
I’m on my 10th day on 100 units. I’m 60 year old female and have another 25 lbs to lose (173 and 5’7″). First week I was down 5.4 pounds. Have actually put on close to 1 pound since my weigh in-on Friday. Was somewhat easier last week…..I was miserable for most of the morning. Shaky, hungry, felt REALLY faint upon standing, couldn’t think etc. I’m unsure if I’m just breaking my old habits. I had 1/2 an apple this morning (for the first time) and that didn’t seem to bode well. See the Doc this coming Friday…..I’m getting discouraged given others results. Some basic questions:
Are splenda and sweet n low ok?
How about broccoli and cauliflower – Doc said they are…he ate of ton of it while on the program and lost 28lbs in 4 weeks.
Sugarless gum ok. I could take it or leave it.
2 nights last week I experienced muscle cramps in toes and calves while attempting to go to sleep (misery). (Today I ordered a vitamin combo of potassium/calcium/magnesium) I’ve been drinking so much water I feel like I may be losing my electrolytes and have low sodium to begin with.
Last night I tossed and turned (every 5 minutes) and couldn’t fall asleep until after midnight (lights out at 9:30 or 10)
It’s been quite difficult for me and wonder where I missing the boat…HELP!
Amy Cunningham says
In additional to my last message – I just looked and I’m actually on .2ml or 20 units. Is that what you are calling 200?
hcgchica's helper says
That usually is 200iu. It really depends on how you mixed the hCG. If it’s mixed like this: 5000iu hCG to 5ml bac water then 20 units is 200iu
When it’s mixed like this 5000iu hCG to 10ml bac water then 20 units is 100iu.
Amy Cunningham says
I am on my third round and each round I was on 200 – I think. It says 20 on the syringe. I lost 30 lbs the first time and 22 the second time. This time on the 3rd round I’m still really hungry. Before, I was not hungry at all and forgot to eat. I thought a higher dosage would be better. Should I drop to 15 or 150? Is sometimes less, more? Thanks so much for all of your great info. What are the lipo drops? Do they help?
hcgchica's helper says
Yes, sometimes less is more. Please read the whole article on dosage to learn more.
Here is a brief synopsis of what the lipo shots supposedly do to help you decide-
Hope that helps!
The chemistry of hCG seems to be inducing a ketogenic metabolism; fat is liberated and either burned or left to break down and be removed from the body as waste without having to burn it. Because of that, I experimented with carb-restriction in combination with hCG and had much better results than following the original protocol.
I did very low-carb loading (like Atkins induction phase, the only carbs coming from very low-carb vegetables like leafy greens and cruciferous, and no fruits, starches, sugars), eliminated the Melba toast (pure starch) serving and replaced the fruit serving with more nutrient dense vegetables, like red leaf lettuce, beets, eggplant skins, etc., or used only very small amounts of extremely low-carb and nutrient-dense berries, like raspberries, strawberries, or the skins of blueberries liquefied in a blender with a little protein powder. Spectacular results, and very consistent.
Hunger always ended up ending the diet, but I always took it, apparently mistakenly, to be due to developing resistance to the hCG. I just started a round of injections, and am extremely eager to see how I fare in the later days by reducing the dose as you have described here, because in reading your account of your own experience and comments of your readers, it seems overwhelmingly likely that I too was running into the problem of needing to reduce the dose as I lost weight.
Many, many thanks for the time and effort everyone involved has donated here, and best wishes to all!
Ronda Huisman says
I am on my R1P2D17 and have lost only 11#. I was on 150IU. These coming in my first week and half. I did not have hunger needs and only ate when mealtime. I am going to a diet center for the HCG and now and on 200 IUI and I am walking around like a crazy woman ready to rip someone apart. I lay awake thinking about food. I am post-menopausal and have thyroid disorder. it is always a struggle. Please help me with understanding the correlation of dosing and menopause. Thank you for any help. I am going to skip tomorrows dose to see if that helps.
HELP….I keep reading if you are hungry in the morning cut down your dose, if you are hungry in the evening up your dose….but what if you are hungry at both times? Or all day? Some days I am not starving in the morning but get pretty hungry an hour after I get up then in the afternoon from after lunch to before dinner I can be okay with lots of water, but still am slightly hungry…. then later I am hungry again. I just feel sometimes hungry all the time, always thinking of food. I woke up and I am starving today. Really bad headaches too. I was going to try upping my dose because I felt a little better at 200iu but I went down to 180iu….but now i am starving this morning. So I am so confused as to what to do. I have a lot of weight to lose (130lbs) so I figured a higher dose would be needed. Any help would be appreciated!
ShelliC I’m anxious for a reply to your blog because I am having the same struggle this time. I have done other rounds and not experienced hunger. This time is so hard. I have adjusted my dose several times trying to find my correct dose. In the past it has been between 125-150. This time I’ve tried going up and down and have no consistent relief from hunger.
I have lost 45 pounds and still have 30 to go.
Kristin Radanovic Lovato says
I ordered the 2000 iu and mixed it with 4mL of the bsw. I use a diabetic needle and inject “30 units”
Today is the first day after my load days and I feel awful tired no exhausted, hungry, headaches and I started my period 5 days early
What do I do and did I mix it correctly
Lydia Brown says
Hi! I just started my injections at 150 six days ago. During the loading phase I tried not to eat many carbs and rarely eat sugars anyway. I was not able to eat that much because I normally eat 1300-1500 calories a day. I ate until I felt like I was going to puke. Maybe 3000-4000 calories. The first 3 days I was starving every morning but I did lose a pound a day. (I have 30 pounds to lose BTW). So, reading through your information, this morning I changed my dose to 125. Still hungry but not as much, so I had an orange. Hunger is gone but my stomach is still growling, which it has done most of the day this entire week. I’m not mistaking my stomach growling for hunger, I really was starving the first 3 days. I want to make sure I am adjusting my dose correctly because I really don’t want to lose what muscle I do have. Prior to this diet, I have given numerous diets a 2 month try and lose a few pounds during the first week yet level out at 170. (5’8″ tall) I am normally a skinny person who has been on many get fat diets in the past. Menopause and quitting smoking after 40 years caused me to gain weight. My question is…how long should my stomach growling go on until it goes away? What am I doing wrong?
Hi HCGChica! I’ve been in my fourth day on the HCG regimen. My challenge is that I have type 1 diabetes (35 years now) and I am vegetarian. I only eat a couple of ounces of fish per week, no other animal protein sources – not meat, poultry, or dairy. I’m having difficulty deciding which complex carbohydrates are acceptable on this diet. I need to add legumes, or nuts to get at least a little bit of protein each day, but the diet prohibits them. So far, I’ve had less than a handful of almonds each evening to help fulfill the protein requirement. I’ve lost 8 pounds in 3 days, so I suspect that not having the protein may not be a good thing. Can you offer some suggestions please?
I’m so glad I found this blog. I am on a second round of HCG after failed attempts and today is day 2. Yesterday I stumbled across your blog and realized i was over dosing on HCG. I started at 200 ius a few times before and was starving. Needless to say, I didn’t make it past a few days. So, this time around, I tried to find all the information I could and found you! As I mentioned, yesterday was day 1 and I was starving with 200 ius. Today I have gone down to 125 ius nd the change is astronomical. Lots of energy, no hunger! I’m back to the excitement of when I did this program for the first time. I am recording dosage and hunger level. I will continue to adjust accordingly. Thank you!
Help, I cannot find my dose. I ONLY have hunger in the evening around 5pm and it is intense. From what I read, I should increase my dose. The highest I’ve gone is 210 iu and was still hungry. I’ve also gone as low as 125 iu and the lower amounts did make the hunger worse throughout the day instead of just the evening. Do you hear from any HCGers that do better on higher doses? I was afraid to go any higher than 210 and wanted advice. The hunger in the evening is unbearable and making this diet hard. I do fantastic during the day. BTW my HCG is mixed with the liposhot that is offered instead of the regular solution but in the same amounts you suggest.
I am at 18% BF and I had to use a lower dose of HCG for this round there for I am left with a lot of HCG. How long can I extend my round on the 28 day considering I have not been skipping one day a week.
Hey @Cooper typically once you mix a batch, you wouldn’t want to use it past about 4 weeks. Some people online have claimed to keep using it past that, but from what it seems, the potency drops off a lot past the 4 week point possibly making the results possibly not as good/healthy. I hope that helps you decide. – Rayzel
I measured it out and I only have an extra 5 days so I am going to finish off what I have. Hope it goes well. This time I did not loose as much as the first time. I am assuming that is because there is not as much left to loose. The first 28 day round I did, I lost almost 30 lbs. This time I only lost 10 however, I was much hungrier and I had to play with my dose in the beginning and did not get it right until about 1 week into p2. I started out with 175 units because I thought if I was leaner I would need more but after reading your post, I needed LESS! I settled at 125 units. so I might have wasted the first week. I am 5’8 and 135. I was hopping to get to 125 but I don’t know if that is going to happen. Maybe I can do something in p3 to drop another 5 lbs. Wish me luck.
Jessica ames says
Hi! ima on my day 21 of the diet and i have lost 15 pounds and need to lose 10 more. Should i continue all the way to day 40? i am experiencing lack of sleep and there are some day that i feel hungrier than others. i really wan to lose those last 10 pounds but anytime i get close to just having 5 pounds left it goes back to 10 more. Can someone help me?
Max M says
When you mix the hcg can you load up all your syringes for the 3 weeks? Or you have to fill one everyday?
Hi @Max M – you know, while you can do this, one reason that many find it better not to pre-fill syringes is because sometimes a dosage change is necessary as you continue to lose weight, and prefilling syringes would make this difficult- the needle will get duller if you have to put it in the rubber stopper more than once and could make the injection painful. So I preferred to just fill my injection for each day.
I just got my shipment from Advanced HCG today and getting ready to mix But there are no instructions ? Can you put it into lay mans terms for me on how to mix
Cleo Yazz says
Hi ! I am on prescription hcg tablets–300 Unit 2x a day. Do you have any additional information on the prescription tablets? I think my dosage is too high because I’m hungry but most of what I’m reading pertains to injections. Any additional info regarding tablets would be really helpful. Thanks!
Hi Cleo! I’m on the same dose/tablets of you. Did you find something that helped?
Hi! Just discovered your site and love it, so helpful. Thank you. I’m just wondering, why is it that a higher dose of hcg (this hormone we love and does miraculous things) is the likely cause of more hunger & not as “good” results? I guess I would assume that a lower dose of this miracle hormone would generally be the reason for not more hunger & not as good of results. Do you know why this is?
Also — when ordering HCG online through the pharmacy you recommend, do I need to worry about it staying “good” on the way to me? For instance, if it were to be left in a delivery car during a really hot day? I’ll likely order through the site you provided next round but unfortunately I bought my 45 day supply (2 rounds) at a medical office for $750 before doing research that I could spend a fraction of that.
Lastly, I am a 25 yr. old female, 5’7, 160lbs — would you think that I could still expect to lose 1lb/day even though I am not in the obese category (although still considered overweight)? Thank you!!!!! Please let me know if you have a direct email service I could sign up for, too 🙂
Started with 175iu for 2 loading days, no hunger but found it really painful to force myself to gorge on fatty foods, and thought that was the wrong dose for me. So I cut dose down to 165iu for the VLCD 1, unfortunately hunger pain hit me all day long. Then next day, I went back to 175iu, luckily that worked for me. Thereafter, I tried 185iu for the second week, 195iu for the 3rd week then continued with 200iu for the 32nd day of HCG injection (on my 2nd vial of newly mixed HCG). Well, magic disappeared, I started feeling hungry again. Had to adjust dosage back on 185iu, wow it worked! From 152.4lbs to 131.8lbs, just 3 more to go to reach my ultimate goal. My first round of HCG, hopefully also the last round.
The conclusion is, it’s likely that the leaner is the less dose required, but staring with low dose definitely isn’t for me. Each person responds to HCG injection differentl, finding the right dose can be challenging and strategic as it really secures and consolidates the success of performing HCG protocol, so good luck to everybody else who’s still thriving on HCG practice.
I’ve just finished my 2nd bottle and not only have I not losses weight….. I gained weight, which I’m not sure how on basically eating like a bird. Hcgchica does mention several times that a person should have positive preg tests while on the hcg. I have taken 3 and they all come back negative. Any thoughts???? I feel like it was a waste of $300.
its been months, any update? i m trying to order, have u figured out what went wrong?
any help would be great dear.
Hey @Lissa lol you cracked me up with your intro there. :)- Sorry I missed this- not sure what you ended up doing- sometimes since hCG is a hormone, in can interact in your body in interesting ways. I have chronic health issues too and some rounds I found I felt worse than usual and other rounds I felt better than usual. I hope you’re doing okay! – Rayzel
Bruce Yoxsimer says
Hey Chica, I’m a relatively lean male with another 7 or 8 lbs to go to meet my goal, but seem to have stalled out. I’m using 200 ius and I’m just not sure where to go here. I’m thinking of reducing to 150 to see if that shakes things up a bit. Any ideas? Thanks a heap!
hi, what should i do if im hungry all day. I cant distinguish if its early or later bc its all day.hunger started literally 15 mins afteri injected 140. i did this diet years ago and 120 was my sweet spot then but im also 50lbs heavier now
. i want to make sure i go in the right direction bc i can not deal with a day like this again!
Hey Chica – I do love your site and all of the info. I am taking sublingual tablets that are 500IU/300MCG. I am on day 7 in my first round (3 days of load – 4 on VLCD). No lie – I’m hungry. I’m okay right after I eat – but within an hour, I’m legit hungry. Do you think the dosage is too high? And what would I do about that with a tablet? I’m taking PhenTabz too – and I don’t feel like that’s doing anything. But I would think with those I definitely shouldn’t be hungry. I gained 5 lbs during the 3 day load…lost 5 lbs the first day on VLCD, 4 lbs the next and 1.4 yesterday. So I’m losing … but I really thought I shouldn’t be feeling so hungry by now. Thoughts? THX!!
Hi @Staci – so sorry I wasn’t able to get to this sooner- it’s harder to change dosage in a consistent/reliable way with the tablets of course, but I usually just suggest you break a piece off – likely the dose is too high for you. If you feel better with some broken off, will you let me know?
Please help me I am on 17cc of HCG and all I want to do is eat. I can make it work during the day because I’m busy. but at night, at home it is extremely hard. I’m even on a low dose of phentermine for the hunger and that seems to be helping, but all I want are carbs and processed food. I did cheat today because my kids made me pancakes in bed for Mother’s Day, but now I want carbs really bad. This is my six day on HCG this includes my 2 day of load up and I only lost 3 pounds 🙁
What am I doing wrong. I want these cravings to go away.
Anna Sorensen Phelps says
I have just discovered your site – it’s awesome! Thank you for taking the time to help so many people. I know you are not a doctor but if you could offer me some friendly suggestions I would be grateful. I am 38, have three kids, am 5′ 4″, and need to lose at least 25 pounds. My ideal weight is 120. I have hypoglycemia and constipation with IBS. I have to eat Bran cereal in the mornings to keep myself regular. I have tried fiber drinks and tablets, even prescriptions and Senna – they all give me terrible cramps. (Sorry if I am giving you TMI). So do you think I can successfully use HCG? I am worried I’ll get lightheaded and weak from the hypoglycemia, and be constipated all the time. I also have hormone issues (they are always up and down!) Am I too much of a mess to try this diet? I am desperate – It seems like I have tried everything. My body is so stubborn, it just won’t give up any weight!
I hope you see this cuz I’m confused about how to adjust my dose! I’m on Round 4, ended my last round on 130 units/day, felt great. My understanding was that the more rounds you do, the less HCG you need. I started with 130 this round, but haven’t felt quite right. I skipped yesterday, and noticed gnawing pain in my stomach at night (though it didn’t last long and wasn’t super intense). I take that to mean I should increase my dose, but I’m confused b/c I follow the HCG Diet Info forums and it doesn’t seem like anyone has had to increase doses on future rounds! Should I try 140 units tomorrow? Thanks!!!
Hi hcgchica! I have been on .60 cc 150 iu injections for 5 days and I know I need an adjustment but don’t know if I need to go up or down. When I wake up in the a.m. I feel out of sorts but when I take my injection at 7 a.m. it goes away and I’m feeling great for the rest of the day/night. Today I skipped my dose and of course I feel out of sorts and have a slight headache but not hungry. Before HCG I was never hunger anyway except dinner time and generally only ate then. Do you recommend I go up tomorrow and if so how much?
I’ve been on 150ml in my first week and can’t sleep and have no hunger actually I am a bit nauseous and could barely eat at all yesterday .
I am over 50 should I drop to 125 , 135 or ?